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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:28 PM
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Lest we forget; The Nazi Past of the Bush Family;
From http://ecosyn.us/Bush-Hitler ;

Prescott Bush became Hitler's banker when he became Fritz Thyssen's banker. The incredible loot Fritz's father made in steel, coal, and railroads during WWI was hidden in Holland. Shortly afterwards he was looking to spread some in America and opened a front operation through E.R. Harriman in New York City. In fact, reports indicate that the Bush connections to Nazi money continued through 1951.

The reason Auschwitz was located where it was is because that is near where Fritz Thyssen's coal, steel, and railroads were. That made it possible for I.G. Farben to synthesize fuel from coal gasification for the war machine there, which made it also possible to synthesize rubber there. I.G. Farben also made Zyklon B gas, enough to annihilate two million people according to the trial testimony of the Auschwitz camp commander Rudolf Hoess.

Fritz Thyssen published a book titled "I Paid Hitler" in 1941. It described how Thyssen sponsored the Storm Troopers of Ernst Roehm as early as 1933, allowing them to build up to 4,500,000 strong to take over Germany. But in 1942, even after Pearl Harbor, Prescott Bush and his father-in-law George Herbert Walker, were administering Thyssen's money until forced by the US government to halt (temporarily).
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:35 PM
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1. Um, might want to be a little careful who you tie to the Nazis
Quite a few Americans had close ties and sympathy toward the Nazis during WWII. Didn't the Kennedy family have ties to them as well?

I see where you're going with this, how it fits in with Bush's fascist takeover. But if you bring that up to a freeper, they're just going to hit you back with that.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:45 PM
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2. Yep.... The Kennedy Patriarch was sympathetic to the Nazis...
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 02:47 PM by Blue Belle
according to "The Kennedy Curse" by Edward Klein.

Joseph Kenndy, while serving as Ambassador to England, was impressed with the Nazi's millitary prowess. He wasn't ready to join forces with them, and certainly wouldn't go so far as do their banking or fund them in any way, but he didn't think America would win should they enter a war with the Nazis. I think the Nazis used him similar to the way they used Charles Limburgh to get the US and Britan to believe that their luftwaffe was a more formidable force than it actually was.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:50 PM
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3. Charles Lindbergh liked that society, FWIW
His fondness for it continued after the war, in fact. He liked it so much he had a secret family over there--Lucky Lindy, indeed....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3249472.stm

DNA tests confirm that pioneering American aviator Charles Lindbergh fathered three illegitimate children in Germany, their spokesman has said.

The tests prove that Dyrk and David Hesshaimer and their sister Astrid Bouteuil were the airman's children, said media consultant Anton Schwenk.

All three sprang from a romance between Mr Lindbergh and Munich hat maker Brigitte Hesshaimer that began in 1957.

With a wife and children in the US, the pilot led a double life for decades. ....

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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:52 PM
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5. The Nazis in America nearly kept us out of the war.
And the roots of Nazi philosophy are alive and well in today's Republican Party.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:51 PM
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4. Yep, and thats why I'd never support Teddy for President. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 03:06 PM
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8. He's far too old, and he would never run again
He blew his window of opportunity, and that was a good thing, really, because he wouldn't have done well at that phase in his life. He was a complete mess back then--heart in the right place, gonads gone wild, though...

He's mellowed in his old age, and is a damn fine senior senator, though.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:17 PM
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13. Old Joe didn't want his boys to die for England....
But one did, anyway. WWI was a total waste that devastated a generation. It was hard for some who remembered it to believe that Hitler was worth fighting.

Have you seen the TV show "Angel"? It was a spinoff of "Buffy, Vampire Slayer"--created by the great Joss Whedon. In the last season, Angel, the Vampire with a Soul, took over Wolfram & Hart with his fellow fighters for good. Wolfram & Hart was an interdimensional law firm & EVIL! Clients included demons, monsters & the very dregs of humanity.

In one scene, the good folks were reviewing case files. Lorne (a good demon) put one down & said that Old Joe Kennedy had tried to get out of his deal.

Angel said "That explains a lot."

Lorne answered "But George W dotted all the i's & crossed all the t's."

That explains a lot, too.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:24 PM
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16. Doesn't change anything.
We know the Bushes are still fascists, but there's little evidence to show that the Kennedys are.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:28 PM
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17. Truth.
The Bushes show they are fascists with every word and deed.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:54 PM
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6. The Truth is the Truth
It doesn't matter who was in bed with who, John Kennedy never took this country in the direction that Bush and his fellow death squad loving, nazi wannabees are.

Besides the Kennedy's never had business dealings with the Nazis, Joseph Kennedy supported Chamberlain's policy of appeasement, while he was the ambassador to the Court of St. James!
He resigned his position in 1940 because of his disagreement with FDR's policy of hostility towards Germany.

His oldest son Joe Jr. died while undertaking a high-risk bombong raid over Germany, and we already know JFK's history of military service!!!!!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 03:18 PM
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9. JFK always had Inga Fejos hanging over his head
It's why he could never unload Hoover, who looked like Kate Smith when he wore a dress.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:11 PM
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12. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Somebody had to say that. The Kennedy family's actions in no way excuse the Bush family actions. What's wrong is wrong.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:32 PM
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18. Kennedy "family" actions?
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 04:38 PM by WinkyDink
The old man was an isolationist. It happened. FDR recalled him. But old Joe's actions were NOTHING, NOTHING. Prescott actually BANKROLLED HITLER.

And look at how the "family" has since conducted itself, compared to the Bushes.

Freeper accusations? Bring'em on.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:58 PM
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7. Prescott
But if memory serves me, the only person to be prosecuted for aiding the enemy during this period was one PRESCOTT BUSH. Of course, Prescott sent George H.W. Bush to fight in Germany (to deflect criticism toward the family), and even had a camera nearby to film one of George Sr's aerial dogfights. They liked to choreograph things, even then.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 03:36 PM
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10. Your memory serves you well.
Indeed he had many of his assets seized.
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newblewtoo Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:05 PM
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11. Thought Geo Sr. was
shot down in the Pacific? He fought in both theaters?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:18 PM
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14. You are correct.
Just the Pacific.

In fact, he is accused of having machine-gunned Japanese lifeboats from a sinking freighter, a war crime.
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newblewtoo Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:46 PM
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19. Thanks
I didn't know about the lifeboat incident. I have been reading about the war in the Pacific recently. Many truly horrible atrocities went on on both sides.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:19 PM
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15. George Sr only fought in the Pacific.
His plane was hit & he bailed out. The two crewmen he left behind died.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 05:35 PM
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20. To be fair...
Bush Sr. says his plane was fully involved in flames when he bailed, and that one crew member bailed but had a parachute failure. Now, others who were flying near him say differently, but there is some doubt on whether he simply abandoned his crew at the first hint of trouble, or whether he bailed from a wreck and the plane was burning to badly for them to follow. (The pilot and crew bailed through different hatches if I recall that aircraft.)
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