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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 02:49 PM
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The Colbert-O'Reilly Clash A worthy stunt?
By Troy Patterson
Posted Friday, Jan. 19, 2007, at 4:16 PM ET

Stephen Colbert. Click image to expand.Stephen Colbert
"O'Reilly vs. Colbert"—a crossover media stunt that transpired Thursday night on two cable networks and at least as many planes of reality—was an unsatisfying trudge down a hall of mirrors. Last week, the two talk-show hosts announced that comedian Stephen Colbert, who parodies Bill O'Reilly, would make an appearance on The O'Reilly Factor (Fox News), and that O'Reilly, who parodies himself, would deign to appear on The Colbert Report (Comedy Central), and the anticipation had been sweet. Might Colbert assemble something as scathing as his speech at last year's White House Correspondents' Association dinner? Would O'Reilly, so often the epitome of restraint, lose his cool? Those of us with shoddy knowledge of particle physics and Star Trek excitedly asked for a reminder: What happens when matter meets antimatter?

The thing fizzled. The first problem is that something's off with O'Reilly of late. There were days not long ago when a fun-loving godless liberal might turn on the "traditionalist" Factor—a "no-spin zone" as the slogan goes—and get good entertainment value. You admired the showmanship, chuckled as the host shredded some college-newspaper editor or sundry other featherweight, and maybe got some bile flowing. But O'Reilly has lost panache. Even by the indulgent standards of TV news—an arena in which Katie Couric is unashamed to say, via blog, "OK, I'm a loser ... but when the red light on my BlackBerry is flashing, I get pretty happy"—he devotes disproportionate effort to reinforcing the bunker of his own persona. The day before Colbert's appearance, for instance, he exulted in a clash with the Barre-Montpelier Times Argus (circulation: 10,500). "They're on the attack in Vermont!" With raised pitchforks, perhaps? The following segment consisted of O'Reilly's reminding the faithful that he'd correctly predicted a position taken by the junior senator from New York: "Well, this morning Mrs. Clinton proved me an oracle. …"

On Thursday, O'Reilly showed that he gets the joke of Colbert but didn't seem keen to play along with it, perhaps because he expected the comedian—or at least his comedic character—to demonstrate something like fealty. O'Reilly referred to The Colbert Report as "a very successful program that owes everything to me." Later, teasing and yet not, he asked his guest, "Don't you owe me an enormous amount of money?" and, later yet, ventured that Colbert "owes his whole life" to the Factor. He refused to drop his self-seriousness and submit to the inherent absurdity of the situation. He couldn't, actually; to do so would offend his constituents. To wit: O'Reilly ran video from the debut of the Report, a bit in which Colbert, establishing his mock-populist thing, woos the audience: "You're not the elite. You're not the country-club crowd. …" But O'Reilly cut the clip before the punch line: "I know for a fact that my country club would never let you in." Meanwhile, Colbert, being the guest, wasn't in a position to press hard, so what we got was the light amusement of Colbert's usual shtick—the grandiosity, the wackiness, the seething hatred of bears. The best part of the show was the off-camera laughter of the crew.


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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 02:56 PM
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1. Patterson missed the point entirely.
How can a media critic be so totally out of it?

Colbert took advantage of the tight scripting and O'Reilly's need to share Colbert's appeal by slipping in some enormous shots to Bill's skull; in just the first minute, Colbert reminded us of O'Reilly's sexual-predator past. It didn't end there, and it wasn't subtle.

Come on, Patterson. Get with the program.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 03:01 PM
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3. I Agree Completely
Colbert did his bit. And he did it pretty much in O'Lielly's face. What did these bozos expect he was going to do in a 7 minute interview?
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 02:59 PM
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2. They Don't Even Discuss The Best Bits Colbert Did
His opening joke about "Jon Stewart is a sexual predator. You wouldn't know anything about that." Perhaps these "reviewers" didn't catch that subtle dig at O'Lielly's past.

Anyways, considering it cost me nothing except 30 minutes of my time, and I would have watched Colbert anyways, this review completely misses the mark for me. I think Stephen did fine. Maybe not an A+ performance, but certainly worth watching.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 03:20 PM
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4. I thought Colbert OWNED the damn thing! Had O'Reilly on his heels...
...from the git-go!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 03:34 PM
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5. Lord he missed the point by a mile
we watched it, several times, and were in tears from the laughter every time
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 04:36 PM
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6. i think it's troy who is a bit full of himself...
the opening dig about the sexual predator thing was worth the whole damn 7 minutes.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-20-07 04:37 PM
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7. couldn't agree more!
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