A little tinfoil thought on this cartoon stuff

[Jersey Devil]

Every once in a while one of these thought pops out of my head and I usually suppress it, saying, "Nah, that's too tinfoil" and move on.

But this keeps bugging me. You know how Buscho is building up to another "crisis" with Iran and how he wants to spread "democracy" all over the world and in particular the Middle East (or wherever else there's oil) and how with Iraq most of Europe thought he was an asshole.

Well, why not drum up some geniune cowboy type hatred of Moslems throughout Europe by having the CIA put some publishers up to printing those stupid cartoons, letting the Moslems get pissed off and create incidents and then just let the whole thing get out of hand with Europeans who'd ordinarily be against us except for the fact that we've now whipped them into an anti-Moslem frenzy.

Too tinfoil?

[Tace]

1. I Think You're On The Right Track

I'm not saying that what you're saying is true. But, there's no doubt that Islamic terrorism is fueled, if not created, by Western intelligence agencies.

[mourningdove92]

2. no, I don't think it is too tinfoil.

In fact, there are not enough tinfoil hats to keep up with today's world.

[rman]

3. that's my kind of tinfoil

i've been thinking exactly the same thing.

it fits perfectly with the tradition of operation mockingbird, cointelpro and gladio.

[BillZBubb]

4. I think that AND using agent provocateurs inside Arab countries.

It wouldn't surprise me if Bushco was fanning the flames inside Syria and other places to create some "incidents". They are aching for an excuse to take out Syria, but they have to have the public back into jingoist fanatic mode first.

[Nutmegger]

5. Uh-oh...let me adjust my tin foil hat here

:tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat:

There...that's better

Interesting though. Like post 1, there's no doubt that "terra-ism" is fueled by western interests. Would I be surprised? No way.

[Ksec]

6. I dont put anything past them since I learned of

them paying newspapers in Iraq to run propaganda peices.

Seriously, if they can do stuff like that and get away with it why couldnt they do this?

Im not convinced its a fact yet but it does seem possible. Especially with their history of propaganda.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

7. Do you really think

he knows enough about the faith of Islam to know it would be a problem?

[bloom]

8. It's not like Bush is the only one who is plotting and planning...

HE doesn't have to know anything - besides how to give a speech, sign his name, shake a few hands.

[Karenina]

14. ANYONE with a cursory

but sincere interest in and knowledge of Islamic beliefs could have predicted this INTENDED outcome. Y'all are simply being primed to support another GENOCIDE. How easily it's working is stunning.

[adriennui]

9. it doesn't take much to fuel muslim "outrage"

i think you're off base with this one....remember these are the same people who had a fatwa on salman rushdie.

their anger is usually terribly misdirected.

[punpirate]

10. While I think that the US has been...

... rather desperately trying to convince Europe that it, too, is threatened by terrorism (something Europe, particularly France, has known for some time), and, now, particularly Iran (why so many stories about Iran being capable of hitting Europe with its new missiles?), in this particular case, I think the root of it is something different.

If the situation in Denmark is in any way similar to that of other northern European countries, such as the Netherlands, there's been a large scale influx of Muslim immigrants. In the Netherlands, particularly, there have been public musings about a few Muslim claims of wanting to dominate Dutch society through sheer numbers.

Whether this has any bearing on what is going on in Denmark, I don't know. But, if I were to guess, that's what behind these cartoons--an assertion of Dane identity and an attempt to demystify and secularize Muslim religious icons as a means of maintaining the current secular status quo.

That, of course, would run headlong against Muslim teaching, and certainly does delineate the divide between fundamentalist Muslims and any secular society. In many respects, that's the same sort of conflict which is ongoing in France over the French government's announcement of a ban on head coverings in French public schools.

Is it hate speech? By our standards, no. By fundamentalist Muslim standards, yes. What it is an indication of, though, is a growing secular intolerance of fundamentalist intolerance, and that will not end well. That's a war of words that will not bring any worthwhile resolution, because it encourages escalation. In short, there's something else underlying these cartoons, and while the US might want to secretly exploit those tensions, the US isn't at the root of them.

Cheers.

[leftofthedial]

11. the "leaders" of the "them" fundies and the "leaders" of the "us" fundies

are in cahoots

they both benefit from perpetual theo-racial hate-based war

[neoblues]

12. If you can think of it...

Someone in those unrestrained "government" agencies has thought of it... and it could very well have happened--the more unlikely, the better.

[IADEMO2004]

13. Lilly Tomlin " No matter how cynical I get I can't keep up"

or something close to that