Jerusalem Post:" U.S. planning strike against Iran".

[i have issues]

The United States government reportedly began coordinating with NATO its plans for a possible military attack against Iran.

The German newspaper Der Tagesspiegel collected various reports from the German media indicating that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization are examining the prospects of such a strike.

According to the report, CIA Director Porter Goss, in his last visit to Turkey on December 12, requested Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to provide military bases to the United States in 2006 from where they would be able to launch an assault.

The German news agency DDP also noted that countries neighboring Iran, such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Oman, and Pakistan were also updated regarding the supposed plan. American sources sent to those countries apparently mentioned an aerial attack as a possibility, but did not provide a time frame for the operation.

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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1135696369601

[applegrove]

1. The Iranian leader is nuts. He is nuts. Nuts. Did I say he was Nuts!

[Tom Joad]

5. So? Isn't the US leader nuts?

[applegrove]

6. Iranian Leader was full out "baiting" in the last two months. As to the

US leaders.... well that is another story.

Fact is iran is building its own oil market to cut out the US dollar. They are doing that right now. And signing agreements with Russia & China. So neither those two will allow for UN sanctions.

Then he goes and baits.

US has been agressively fostering secular dissent in Iran.

Whole thing is a mess. And why - folk like Rummy & Cheney... with a history of bad decisions in terms of "Supporting the Shaw" etc.... should not be allowed in power.

Legacy is a bitch. Iran did have elections. But now they tie the whole world up in a knot so they can get their nuclear bombs.

I'm telling you that man is nuts.

We talk all the time about what nutcakes Bush, Cheney & Rummy are - now - right now - I will talk about what a nut that Iranian PM is.

Don't know if the saber rattleling is real. And if it is to get him to back down.. so I will not go there. Because I hope it works. I hope it is not war. So I will shut up now.

[Tom Joad]

16. The US has been fostering extremism in Iran, by its attacks on

muslim countries, and its continued support of the oppression of Palestinian people.

That is not an excuse for the Iranian leaders words or deeds, but that is the context. The people felt that they were really going to be threatened by the US/Israel no matter what, so they elected this extremist... might as well go out fighting may be the thinking.

Saddam acceded to every demand set by the UN and they still destroyed Iraq.

[AndyTiedye]

7. So Is Our "Dear Leader"

[oblivious]

2. Something funny about this story.

If you do a search, you will find many similar stories in Israel, India, the UK, and US, but they all go back to this single German source. You'd think as it goes around the world and back there would be some additional sources pop up to confirm it.

They've been talking about it on Fox and CNN as well, but no sources are ever given as far as I've seen.

The Iranian papers don't seem to pay any attention to it. Like they know it's a bluff.

I'm calling bluff too.

[i have issues]

3. Personally I'm calling it a bluff too...

BUT, Historically Der Spiegel has broken some major news, Hope we're right.

[oblivious]

4. Right, I'm not saying Der Speigel made it up or anything.

But I'm wondering if their sources used them to test the waters so to speak, to watch Iran's reaction, or allies' reaction or something like that.

[redacted]

10. That's not correct. This story has been all over the web

and was covered by Reuters, UPI and a number of blogs after breaking in the Turkish press in mid-December. It had also been extensively debated on DU in a post started by Will Pitt. The German source you're referencing came along later and didn't add much new information to the original story.

[oblivious]

11. I already said it was all over the web.

The first reports in the Turkish media were just speculation and didn't really go anywhere. It was only when Der Speigel picked up the DPP reporter's piece (quoting German security sources) and then and Der Tagesspiegel added NATO sources that it started around the world.

UPI and everyone else uses the DPP, Der Spiegel and/or Der tagesspiegel stories as their source. If you can find other sources, I'd like to know. This was just one google, but they're all the same source.

Der Speigel's original story:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11373.htm

Speigelonline's explanation:
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,392783,00.html

UPI report
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20051230-112208-8968r
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/security/article_2122666.shtml
http://iblnews.com/view.php?id=381723
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WAL20051231&articleId=1693
http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20051230-124328-9385r

Others referring to the German reports:
http://warrenreports.tpmcafe.com/story/2006/1/1/222851/8017
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48142
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/012701.php
http://themedialine.org/news/news_detail.asp?NewsID=12279
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/13146
http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=496609
http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2005/12/31/us-preparing-military-strike-on-iran/

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1354342.cms
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=60757
http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/jan/01us.htm
http://indiamonitor.com/news/readNews.jsp?ni=9930
http://www.ptinews.com/pti%5Cptisite.nsf/0/F9C7F5BCD0884D63652570E9004A2E7E?OpenDocument
http://www.newindpress.com/Newsitems.asp?ID=IEH20060101091333&Title=Top+Stories&Topic=0
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/6151.asp

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1135696369601&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/664518.html

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/article_1072447.php/German_media_U.S._preps_Iran_strike

http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_11882.shtml
http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/conspiracy_theory/fullstory.asp?id=285
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-2005/december-2005/us_attack_iran_311205.shtml
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_11915.shtml

[redacted]

15. Here are reports I had first posted on Dec. 24:

REUTERS
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L12134782.htm

UPI
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20051214-122221-2318r

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=89033

http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=29658

http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=164

[oblivious]

17. That's my point

Reuters (12 Dec) didn't refer to it at all.
UPI (Dec 14) did not mention it.

Only a few Turkish reports mentioned it, and it made it to a few blogs, but not the international press.

Only when der spiegel mentioned 'terrorism expert' Udo Ulfkotte's piece in DPP news agency did it get international attention because of his known links to German intel.

Then Der Tagesspiegel added NATO sources, (which coorborates what Ulfkotte's sources said and therefore contradicts what I said about a single source.)

But my point is that when I went to all the international news reports looking for more on this, they all went back to the German reports der spiegel or der tagessiegel. In other words, news articles about news articles.

I was hoping for something more.

[cantstandbush]

13. All i can say is "Remember the Niger documents!" n/t

[ohio_liberal]

8. Turkey wouldn't let the US use bases for Iraq invasion, right?

Then why would Turkey let the US use bases for an attack on Iran?

[doublethink]

9. Well ...... unfortunately .......

Turkey has a bit of a different attitude on Iran then they had on Iraq back when ... so who knows? Because Turkey thinks attacks on camps in Iran run by the PKK, the Kurdish separatist organization, would benefit them (Turkey) ..... and the U.S. seems to have given the green light to Turkey to do these attacks up north when and if the U.S. takes on Iran. A frickin mess with all the factions involved over there . :( .... Peace. :freak:

[no_hypocrisy]

12. U.S. help getting Turkey into the E.U. is the bargaining chip to get

access to Turkish air bases.

[cantstandbush]

14. No question in my mind that capitalism cannot survive without WAR! n/t