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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:09 PM
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US Detention Camps For Political Subversives (Halliburton contract award!)
Edited on Sat Feb-04-06 09:25 PM by Wordie
US Detention Camps For Political Subversives

US Detention Camps For Political Subversives

by Paul Joseph Watson

February 4, 2006
prisonplanet.com

In another shining example of modern day corporate fascism, it was announced recently that Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root had been awarded a $385 million dollar contract by Homeland Security to construct detention and processing facilities in the event of a national emergency.

The language of the preamble to the agreement veils the program with talk of temporary migrant holding centers, but it is made clear that the camps will also be used "as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency."

Discussions of federal concentration camps is no longer the rhetoric of paranoid Internet conspiracy theorists, it is mainstream news.

Under the enemy combatant designation anyone at the behest of the US government, even if they are a US citizen, can be kidnapped and placed in an internment facility forever without trial. Jose Padilla, an American citizen, has spent over four years in a Navy brig and is only just now getting a trial.

In 2002, FEMA sought bids from major real estate and engineering firms to construct giant internment facilities in the case of a chemical, biological or nuclear attack or a natural disaster.

Okanogan County Commissioner Dave Schulz went public three years ago with his contention that his county was set to be a location for one of the camps.

Alex Jones has attended numerous military urban warfare training drills across the US where role players were used to simulate arresting American citizens and taking them to internment camps.

The move towards the database state in the US and the UK, where every offence is arrestable and DNA records of every suspect, even if later proven innocent, are permanently kept on record, is the only tool necessary to create a master list of 'subversives' that would be subject to internment in a manufactured time of national emergency.

The national ID card is also intended to be used for this purpose, just as the Nazis used early IBM computer punch card technology to catalogue lists of homosexuals, gypsies and Jews before the round-ups began.

Section 44 of the Terrorism Act in Britain enables police to obtain name and address details of anyone they choose, whether they are acting suspiciously or not. Those details remain on a database forever. To date, 119,000 names of political activists have been taken and this is a figure that will skyrocket once the post 7/7 figures are taken into account. At the height of the Iraq war protests, around a million people marched across the country. However, most of these people were taking part in a political protest for the first time and as a one off. Even if we take a figure of half, 500,000 people being politically active in Britain, that means that the government has already registered around a quarter of political activists in the UK.

In truth the number is probably above half because we are not factoring in those already on MI5 'subversive' lists and those listed after the 7/7 bombings, when the powers were used even more broadly.

Concurrently in the US, a new provision in the extended Patriot Act bill would allow Secret Service agents to arrest and jail protesters accused of breaching any security perimeter, even if the President or any other protected official isn't present. The definition of 'free speech zones' can be shifted around loosely and this would open the floodgates for protesters to be grabbed and hauled away in any circumstance at the whim of the Secret Service.

During the 2004 RNC protests, thousands of New Yorkers were arrested en masse in indiscriminate round-ups and taken to Pier 57 (pictured), a condemned, asbestos poisoned old bus depot, where they were imprisoned without charge for up to 24 hours or more.

The existence and development of internment camps are solely intended to be used to round up en masse and imprison 'political dissidents' (anyone who isn't prepared to lick government boots) after a simulated tactical nuke or biological attack on a major US or European city.
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:35 PM
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1. the Patriot act - really amazing how quickly such a huge document
Something that I have always wondered about the Patriot act... You know after 9/11, I found it really amazing how quickly such a huge document was created in such a short time.

It appears to me as if someone had it ready in the shoot before 9/11.

Wouldn't it be amazing if we could prove that?

===
if a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power." - General Eisenhower, 1956
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:38 PM
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3. Paul Craig Roberts: Heralding the coming police state
http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=2842.topic

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Paul Craig Roberts: Heralding the coming police state Unfathomed Dangers in Patriot Act Reauthorization Patriot Police
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

A provision in the "Patriot Act" creates a new federal police force with power to violate the Bill of Rights. You might think that this cannot be true as you have not read about it in newspapers or heard it discussed by talking heads on TV.

Go to House Report 109-333 -USA PATRIOT IMPROVEMENT AND REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2005 and check it out for yourself. Sec. 605 reads:

"There is hereby created and established a permanent police force, to be known as the 'United States Secret Service Uniformed Division'."

This new federal police force is "subject to the supervision of the Secretary of Homeland Security."

The new police are empowered to "make arrests without warrant for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such felony."

The new police are assigned a variety of jurisdictions, including "an event designated under section 3056(e) of title 18 as a special event of national significance" (SENS).

"A special event of national significance" is neither defined nor does it require the presence of a "protected person" such as the president in order to trigger it. Thus, the administration, and perhaps the police themselves, can place the SENS designation on any event. Once a SENS designation is placed on an event, the new federal police are empowered to keep out and to arrest people at their discretion.

The language conveys enormous discretionary and arbitrary powers. What is "an offense against the United States"? What are "reasonable grounds"?

You can bet that the Alito/Roberts court will rule that it is whatever the executive branch says....
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:38 PM
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4. They're adding NEW provisions!!! Here are some:
Tue, Jan. 31, 2006
Patriot Act provision could limit inmate appeals

BY JAMES KUHNHENN
Knight Ridder Newspapers

_An expansion of the Secret Service's ability to prohibit trespassing or disorderly behavior at big national events, such as Super Bowl games and political conventions. Under current law it's a federal crime to cause a disturbance at events that are attended by a person who's protected by the Secret Service. The change would apply to such events even if the person in the Secret Service's care weren't present.

_Language that makes it illegal to hold phony passes to events protected by the Secret Service. Current law makes it illegal to hold fake passes issued by an agency of the federal government. The change applies to passes issued by any group organizing a protected event.

_Adding the homeland security secretary to the presidential line of succession. The change places the secretary in the 18th spot, right behind the secretary of veterans affairs. Some Republicans had wanted the homeland security-succession slot to be the ninth, right behind the attorney general.

_A new position of assistant attorney general for national security, which would require Senate approval. The position would oversee the Justice Department's main national security offices: the Office of Intelligence and Policy Review and the counterterrorism and counterespionage sections of the department's Criminal Division.


http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/13758568.htm
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:35 PM
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2. there is a basic flaw in all this...
Edited on Sat Feb-04-06 09:37 PM by tocqueville
A dictatorship can put minorities in camps, but not majorities. Simple mathematics show that even with a completely loyal Army (and not stationed abroad) the dictator could roughly gather 1 million men.

1 million men is not sufficient to put in camps 150 millions potential opponents, unless they don't resist.
Even if the progressive leaders were arrested, they are too many diverse people that would stay "out" and would be unreliable. Dictators succeed because during an initial period they have the support of the overwhelming majority of the population. But that would imply that after a declaration of martial law, the democrats would be made culprits of kind of a 9/11 conspiracy which would be a bit difficult to swallow.

An attempt to put in camps "democrats" en masse would result in a civil war.

Even with the help of the German Army, the French traitors couldn't send all commies, progressives, jews etc.. to forced labor in Germany. They got a guerilla in the remote parts, an exile government, an exile liberation army abroad and urban resistance and warfare...

America would react exactly in the same way...
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Trevelyan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 09:49 PM
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5. How do we prepare? The only thing I can think of is to read up on the
RESISTANCE MOVEMENT to the Nazis.

:nuke:

* An Alexandria, Virginia-based minister, who runs a small think tank and several websites, has issued a column denouncing"The Unitary Executive Theory (Fuehrerprinzip), Or TheKing-With-Advisors Form Of Government." In it he states, "After Hitler came to power in January 30, 1933, he quickly put his Unitary Executive Theory
(Fuehrerprinzip) into practice...

"Judge Samuel Alito is a staunch supporter of the UnitaryExecutive Theory, although he probably doesn't even know about its Nazi background.... If Alito could assemble a majority on theCourt, the Unitary Executive Theory would be well on its way to becoming the Law of the Land, in all respects, by Supreme Court decision.

"This would turn our President into a Unitary Executive Dictator and turn our Constitution upside down, re-establishing the exact kind of tyranny it was intended to prevent."

Rev. Bill McGinnis's full statement is available at http://www.civicAmerican.com .
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:25 PM
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8. Well, here's a link to the ACLU's info on the Patriot Act:
It's a good place to learn more too.
http://action.aclu.org/reformthepatriotact/facts.html
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SushiFan Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:02 PM
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6. Believe it or not I get automatic spyblocks when I'm here at DU...
machine software picks it up automatically and blocks, then I delete.


Unless........
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SushiFan Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:05 PM
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7. Sorry, I feel stupid--- I was in the WRONG thread!!
First time that's ever happened. What a putz I am tonight!! <blush>
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