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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 03:39 AM
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Ralph Reed's First Try for Running For Office Is Failing
Ralph Reed has not been charged with a crime. But analysts say the boyish-looking, 44-year-old darling of the conservative movement and former adviser to GOP presidential campaigns appears to be in political trouble because of his ties to Abramoff, who pleaded guilty in January to corruption charges and admitted swindling his Indian clients.

On the campaign trial, Reed's Republican rival has been quick to exploit those ties to Abramoff. "The scandal is a national issue and Reed is right in the middle of it," said Cagle, a state senator. "It's not an issue that will go away."

On Friday, 21 of Georgia's 34 Republican state senators _ all Cagle supporters _ signed a letter urging Reed to withdraw from the race, saying his involvement in the Abramoff scandal "threatens to impact the entire Republican ticket." Buh-Bye Ralph...!
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060203/ap/d8fhtd1g9.html


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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 03:40 AM
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1. There is a God! n/t
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 01:15 PM
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31. And it appears Ralphie Boy ain't in his good graces these days
:rofl:
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 03:42 AM
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2. Wait until the pics of him are leaked.
He's a closet case. I can't wait until he gets outted. It's going to be so sweet.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 04:18 AM
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5. Another one? Tonight I learned something about Hitlers regime
I didn't know. That his regime used IBM to list jews and gays prior to rounding them up and putting them in concentration camps. While his regime had lots of gays at the top. (Sorry for that).
Just seems so similar to *.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 06:00 AM
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13. Hi caligirl, do you have a link to that IBM claim to list jews and
gays? Not that I doubt that, but would like to learn more abut it!


Scary Stuff, eh?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 02:42 PM
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28. Take your pick on this google search:
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 01:08 PM
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30. I wish you'd make a distinction between gays and closet cases
Edited on Mon Feb-06-06 01:08 PM by iconoclastNYC
Gay isn't the problem. It's being a closet case: living a lie, supressing your true nature, and living with shame and guilt for your true feelings that will drive you to evil. Sexuality is a force of biology, gay or straight.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 04:51 PM
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36. sorry, Iwasn't thinking about that when I responded. Just the hypocrisy.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 01:33 PM
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34. They used tabulating equipment in Germany that had originally
been made by IBM and sold to the government and businesses there. many American companies, including National Cas Register, Burroughs, and others sold equipment to Eauropean companies in those days.

The IBm tabulating machines (punched card readers and sorters) were used for handling large quantities of data and analyzing it. Any kind of data. Just like cash registers can be used to record sales, they can also be used to record bribes and blackmail payments.

Equipment is amoral. It's the people who use it who make moral judgments.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 01:52 PM
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35. IBM leased the equipment...
and provided staff to run and maintain it. They were partners in crime; complicit. A small detail, but an important one nevertheless.
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DrRang Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 08:49 AM
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14. Remember that movie "Village of the Damned" and the
pretty little kids with weird, glassy eyes. That's what I think of every time I see a picture of Reed.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 10:37 AM
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26. That movie used to scare the shit out of me.


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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:56 AM
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22. I thought I was the only one thinking along these lines!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 10:30 AM
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24. Yes, but did you notice who's taking him down? Republicans.
This I learned from fighting City Hall. If someone is coming to you with their support, it may not be because they agree with you, but because you have information that may take their opponents out. And once those opponents are out of the picture, expect the alliances to dissolve.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 03:46 AM
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3. Why is it that so many of the Christian leaders embody...
the worst possible aspects of humanity? They need to get better leaders, I swear to god (hah, no pun intended).
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 03:49 AM
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4. So-called Christians are suckers for giving up the bucks for stupidity
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 08:50 AM
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15. I guess this
I sort of go with the history view that the masses put up the rulers they want not that the rulers led the masses. If some thing is thought by enough people there always seems to be some one that will get it together and run with it. Our founders did not just think up this govt. half the people thought the same way and were willing to run with it after they got the leaders to sort of pull it together. And all the thinking was already out their and in print. If we have Church leaders who act like screw balls you can be sure that is what is behind them.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:26 AM
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18. NOt real Christians. Jesus was a liberal.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 04:19 AM
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6. From his campaign site, his wife is CEO of Estate Domestics.
How's that for highlighting the difference between the Reeds and the "little people?"
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 04:32 AM
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7. He's a religious right wing nut
The GOP want the right wing $ flowing in, but they will channel it to those not so found out.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 04:33 AM
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8. thank GOD, thank GOD, THANK GOD that little bastard shit is failing!
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 05:23 AM
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9. Bwahahahaha!!!!!
:rofl: I so hope that arrogant, hypocritical little phony gets his comeuppance. That would be so sweet!
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 05:26 AM
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10. there IS a god
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 05:49 AM
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11. Google - "reed abramoff" ... n/t
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 05:54 AM
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12. WTF - Here it is...
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:27 AM
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19. God doesn't help those who lie, cheat, and steal.
(and perhaps have people killed over a SunCruz deal)
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 08:52 AM
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16. Didn't you mean
"Ralph Reed has not been charged with a crime . . . yet?"
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:05 AM
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17. Reed's shady dealings with Abramoff and Enron was bound to catch up
to him.

GOP "Culture of Corruption".
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:38 AM
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20. I Dunno. Reed May Be Doing Fine
I dunno. Ralph Reed may be doing better than we hope. After all, Georgia voters elected Saxby Chambliss to the United States Senate. Seems to me that some voters will vote for anybody, no matter how grubby, as long as that person is a "Christian" or a "conservative." That person may have already sold out to special interests, rob them blind, litter their office floor with dead interns, but as long as that person waves a Bible and shouts "Hooray!" for the Republican Party, an awful lot of gullible voters will vote for them.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 09:56 AM
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21. That is a curious thing. Words, not actions, do seem to prevail.
There is a "religious" mentality that seems to say everything's alright, as long as one professes to be a Christian. One could have a bloody ax in one hand, and a bible in the other, and all they'll see is the bible.

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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 10:39 PM
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29. A bloody ax, a bible tucked under the arm, and
Edited on Sun Feb-05-06 10:39 PM by VogonGlory
The way things are going, one could have a bloody ax, a bible tucked under the arm, and be caught carving notches on the ax-handle for each victim struck down and the pietists would STILL vote for him.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 01:30 PM
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33. Diebold elected Chambliss and Sonny Perdue and all of the Republican
Edited on Mon Feb-06-06 01:30 PM by CottonBear
state senators and representatives. I know. I'm in Georgia.

Our idiotic Democratic Secreatry of State, Cathy Cox, made us first in the nation 100% Diebold post 2000 election and refused to request the source codes or a demand verifiable paper trail.
:grr:
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 10:26 AM
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23. Google Enron Ralph Reed
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 10:34 AM
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25. Slimy, smarmy little bastard...
:rofl:
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 10:45 AM
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27. Sound like a job for Swamp Rat. LOL
--IMM
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 04:52 PM
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37. already done
:D

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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 01:25 PM
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32. I'm in GA. Reed's opponents are just like him except for the scandal.
Edited on Mon Feb-06-06 01:27 PM by CottonBear
We are so screwed no matter which one of them wins the primary election. :(

Our current Democratic Lt. Gov. (Mark Taylor) is running for Governor

edit: Cagle is an asshole supreme who is trying to split my blue town between two state senate districts because there was a good chance that a Democratic woman would win the election in the current district. :(
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