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Solve_et_Coagula Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 12:57 PM
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Are the cartoon protesters propaganda led?? *pic*
Are the cartoon protesters propaganda led?? *pic*
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Posted By: pjbuk, http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net
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I'm discussing this at another site and I have to make a couple of quick points here, look at the very WHITE hand in the first image. Then take note that ALL these signs are written by exactly the same person, you can tell by the writing in general, but more so by noting the S's.
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What if this was someone intent on making things much worse than they were, turning up to an already angry crowd with banners already written??
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Having looked at the Yahoo slideshow again, only two of these images remain there, the others are gone. Many of the 200+ pictures show muslims holding banners simply asking for respect....
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Hmmmmmmmmm???
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SittingBull Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 12:59 PM
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1. You bet n/t
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Nabia2004 Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:04 PM
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2. No doubt about it. - nt
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:06 PM
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3. Good point
and we should NEVER just accept even photos on face value.

One explanation might be that all the signs were made by the same person, who happened to be a member of a more aggressive subgroup.

Or it could have been a setup. OR maybe they don't speak English and were handed the signs by folks they trusted and have no idea what they say.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:14 PM
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8. these guys are British
there is a Booby standing by them. It's obvious that the picketing is organized, and the slogans aim to provoke.
They are probably not that many (hence the close up pictures).
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:07 PM
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4. you doen't think these people are able
to screw things up for themselves?

fatwas against rushdie, beheadings for adultery, bombing jo goldensteins restaurant in the marais.

they're not immune to stupid destructive acts.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:17 PM
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12. No one is immune to stupid destructive acts
Good point.
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SittingBull Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:09 PM
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5. interesting links
Edited on Sun Feb-05-06 02:00 PM by SittingBull
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:12 PM
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6. Good point. And how can we even blame them for what they're saying,
when they don't even know what they're saying?

And that doesn't even consider what they've been told.

They are the Eastern Republicans. (Not the airline.)
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:15 PM
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9. they are British and know what they are saying
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:18 PM
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13. I see.
Edited on Sun Feb-05-06 01:45 PM by BuyingThyme
Do you think all Brits speak English?
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 07:08 AM
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19. No, but most of them do.
Also, when you consider that 56% of young Muslims were born in Britain, it's a pretty safe bet that they speak English.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:12 PM
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7. It is definitely the same person, same marker.
Edited on Sun Feb-05-06 01:14 PM by SmokingJacket
It could possibly be one person put in charge of making posters down at the local mosque... or something more planned.

I wouldn't be surprised if the protests and arsons are the result of someone throwing gas on the smoldering fire of Islamic resentment, for their own purposes.

on edit: I seem to remember a bunch of fake-looking posters from a protest of some kind a year or so ago... does anyone else remember this? I believe they were also Muslims, but I could be wrong...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:16 PM
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10. Do you have any from the Newsweek deal?
Remember that?
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:16 PM
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11. Not saying you're wrong, but I'll make two counter points
1. Muslims can have white skin.

2. There's absolutely no way you can say the say, definitively, the signs were written by the same person. When I lived in Japan, I learned something interesting. When people who usually write in arabic, kanji, etc...(a script that doesn't use regular letters like ours) they almost always look identical when they write english characters. You couldn't spot a single difference in the handwriting styles of the Japanese I knew if they wrote something in English.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:31 PM
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15. What I notice is the buzz words.
What are the chances that they all are deployed: slay, butcher, exterminate, behead, 9/11.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:21 PM
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14. READ THE DAMN BBC ARTICLE INSTEAD OF SPECULATING
Edited on Sun Feb-05-06 01:22 PM by tocqueville
Pressure on police over protest

Many Muslims do not believe the protesters are representative

Police are coming under political pressure to explain why no arrests were made during demonstrations in which protesters chanted threatening slogans.

The protests on Friday in London over cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad saw slogans and placards glorifying the 7 July London bombings.

Shadow Attorney General Dominic Grieve questioned why no-one was arrested.

Police said they were studying footage of the protests but refused to say if any prosecutions would go ahead
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4682262.stm



· In London, 700 Muslims held a second day of angry protests outside the Danish embassy, many holding placards glorifying the events of 7 July and 9/11.

· Metropolitan police sources told The Observer that arrests could follow this week after investigations of the behaviour on Friday of some protesters who demanded the 'massacre' of 'those who insult Islam'. They may have breached laws against inciting hatred or terrorism.

· Groups representing British Muslims appealed for calm, saying the demonstrations and violence had gone too far.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1702682,00.html
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 01:35 PM
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16. Yes, one shouldn't "speculate" that they speak English.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 06:47 AM
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18. They probably do speak English
Few people spend any time in Britain without picking up basic English - you'd be restricted to a very narrow community. It's not like areas close to the Mexican border in the USA, where so many of the immigrants speak one other language that they can form a large functioning community without speaking English. Immigrants to the UK come from a variety of places, so most don't have a language in common - and often the reason they're in the UK rather than somewhere else (eg southern Europe, which is easier to reach via the Mediterranean, or central Europe, closer to Asia) is precisely because they speak some English, or want to - since it's the world's most common second language.
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Stella_Artois Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-05-06 04:27 PM
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17. Probably correct
Chances are they are all written by the same person.

They are a small organised group of radicals, one of their leaders sat down, or had someone sit down, and write the posters for that protest. They hijacked a peaceful demo, and got all the press. That was their intention.

Doesn't mean we should condemn them any the less, these are the crazies who want to create a theocracy in the UK. Most Muslims just want to get on with life. As for one person having a white hand, so what ? What do you think that means ?
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