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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:30 AM
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so if a guy claiming he's with al qaeda calls me, am i subject to arrest?
just trying to keep up.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:36 AM
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1. great way to f**k with people
Just call them up and say you're
Al Kaida.

I wonder if there's an Al Kaida
Ford-Mercury dealer around somewhere.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 08:23 AM
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7. i would not say that's a "great" way to mess with people.
as it would give YOU no end of grief.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:36 AM
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2. It is none of the brush clearer's business if I get a call from
al quada. Unless he has a warrant, he has no business spying on me, at least according to the fourth Amendment.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:40 AM
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3. What if it's a wrong number?
Do you hang up quick and call the NSA and tell them it was a wrong number?:sarcasm:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:41 AM
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4. hey al qaeda, you're on my no call list
and please don't call me anymore, they're listening
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 08:19 AM
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5. The prankster would be, I'd bet money.
A lttle knock on the door from the FBI might result.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 08:21 AM
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6. Of course not.
The idiot will declare you an 'enemy combatant' and you will be whisked away to gitmo (or worse) without the benefit of arrest, charges, lawyers or a trial. Arrest is so passe.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 08:25 AM
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8. wouldn't anyone of us who gets a call from allkaeda be calling the police
or the sheriff's office, or someone?

this statement by bush that he needs to know (through spying on ordinary americans) if anyone gets a call from allkaeda is the latest lamest sorriest excuse from this sorriest of a white house self installed resident ever!

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TheGunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 08:28 AM
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9. What if some guy named Al Kita calls?
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 08:28 AM
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10. Maybe. But if Cindy Sheehan,Patrick Fitzgerald or Steve Earle call you
your ass is REALLY grass.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 08:32 AM
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11. A call from the NYT's gets you 'disappeared'.
:yoiks:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 09:29 AM
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12. No but you will be rendered to Egypt for some friendly "interrogation" n/t
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 09:37 AM
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13. Well I would mot use the redial the number .just called.
I read on this thing some place that they were at some ones home because he wanted to write a paper on China and asked for the 'wrong' book at his library. I think the story was from a Ore. newspaper but I can not find it now.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:02 AM
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14. Depends on how paranoid you care to be.
There is a rumor that the domestic phone calls of some members of congress were routed through Cananda in order to make them "international" and thus subject to Bush/NSA tapping. If you accept that then you could easily imagine that a CIA department trying to infiltrate AQ could have one of it's operatives call you. Then the NSA "not knowing that person is a CIA covert operative" (wink wink) could use that as reason to tap/search you. (Either with a Patriot Act warrant or illegally via orders from Bush.)

One would like to think it was only for national security, but paranoia easily extends it into partisan politics. After all, would it be THAT hard to have this fictional CIA operatives phone number auto-dial every member of DU? Every registered Democrat? Every phone number in the US? The only limit to this is why would they WANT to?

How far are they willing to go?
How paranoid are you willing to be?

These are but two of the reasons this sort of thing IS ILLEGAL. It is wide open to abuse. ANd even if it is not abused, it creates a paranoid environment in which ALL citizens fear their government.
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SamuelAlito Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:05 AM
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15. Frankly, I think you may be wiretapped already
the fact that you'd even think about such a thing shows you're not really on our side.

The Right Honorable Samuel A. Alito, Jr.
(the A stands for Awesome)
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:35 AM
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18. I like to think...
I like to think that some of the things I post may make some of the tappers think "Hmm, he DOES have a point, there."

I mean, that latest MSNBC poll of 180,000+ respondents, with 86% saying Bush deserves impeachment? Yet not a single peep on the news about THAT? Please.

If they want to protect the nation, the tappers should stop looking at me and start tapping the White House.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:05 AM
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16. Forget arrest. Try rendered.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:41 AM
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20. The word "render" really really bothers me -- reminds me of my
summer job at the meat packing plant way too much.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:07 AM
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17. Absolutly Not. How Could You Call It An Arrest?
Edited on Mon Jan-02-06 10:08 AM by ThomWV
Generally speaking when we say you will be arrested we mean that somehow duly appointed police officials will do the arresting, you will be taken to what is generally recognized as a Judge who will decide if you will remain under arrest (if there is a real reason) and then you will be tossed into what anyone would call a Jail.

In this case goodness only knows who will come get you, there isn't a chance in hell you'll see a judge, and where they take you is anyone's guess.

How can that be considered an arrest in any conventinal terms? Normally it would be thought of more as a kidnapping.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:36 AM
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19. No but someone will be listening
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 10:44 AM
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21. if anyone in the bushgang decides you are a "terrorist(TM)"
you are subject to arrest

it does not require contact with "al Qaeda(TM)"

but now, you are subject to any whim of the king. he doesn't even need to label you a "terrorist(TM)" first
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