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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 08:59 AM
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NYT - 31 Days in Iraq
The accompanying graphic to the article shows in stark terms how many people have died in Iraq in just one month.

Article can be found Here

Quoth the article:

In January more than 800 people — soldiers, security officers and civilians — were killed as a result of the insurgency in Iraq.
While the daily toll is noted in the newspapers and on TV, it is hard for many Americans to see these isolated reports in a broader context.(emphasis mine - MAB)
The map, based on data from the American, British and Iraqi governments and news reports, shows the dates, locations and circumstances of deaths for the first month of the year.



Powerful stuff....


--MAB
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:01 AM
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:09 AM
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2. thank your husband for his service in my behalf
I would fight on my republican neighbors behalf to save their life, which is why I'm trying to save our constitution and country.for all of us and our children
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:14 AM
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3. you fo understand that this website is meant for democrats and
fellow progressives. not republicans or conservatives?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:39 AM
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:50 AM
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5. My hope also is for healing
I've always respected peoples differences in beliefs. But what is being done in Your name right now I believe to be criminal.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:52 AM
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6. As the wife of a US soldier, I support the troops themselves. But I DON'T
support the BULLSHIT of INVADING and OCCUPYING a nation that had done NOTHING WHATSOEVER to anyone, and based on a pack of total LIES by the so-called "leader" bush.

BUSH LIED and thousands of our American boys & girls in the US Forces are DEAD, MAIMED, RUINED for life. NO ONE with any knowledge of the facts, NO ONE with any morality, integrity & honesty supports this BULLSHIT invasion of Iraq. The majority of US soldiers certainly do not.

ANd that has NOTHING to do with "Republican" versus "Democrat". BUSH LIED THIS NATION TO WAR and people, hundreds of thousands, are DEAD because of his LIES. Now what exactly do you not understand about "Democrat" thinking???

By the way, it ain't just Dems who opposed and still oppose bush's bullshit invasion of Iraq.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:56 AM
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7. "The last time I checked,I lived in a country that was GREATER than
everyone else"

Gee, been a few decades since you checked.

USA; #44 in freedom of the press

USA; #13 in democracy & civil rights.

USA; #38 in healthcare.

USA; #46 in literacy.

Maybe you should re-check.
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 10:58 AM
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8. thanks for the stats
Do you have a link? I've had this argument with others and would like to end it.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:15 AM
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9. Links no problem.
The stats, however, are a problem. But unfortunately problems can't be fixed until they're acknowledged.

Healthcare;

U.S. citizens realize less life expectancy than citizens of many other nations, and the U.S. ranks only 37th in the world in quality health care - yet nationally America spends 82% more per person on health care than others - while U.S. federal and state governments spend more on health care than other governments.
http://mwhodges.home.att.net/healthcare.htm

Freedom of the press;

44 United States of America
http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=554

US Falls in World Press Freedom Ranking
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/20/AR2005102001987.html

Democracy & Liberties;

Freedom House Democracy Ranking March 2005 (for 2004). Can't wait to see 2005 figures!

USA Democracy Rank 13th
http://www.worldaudit.org/democracy.htm

Freedom House Political Rights Ranking March 2005
#13 USA
http://www.worldaudit.org/polrights.htm

Freedom House Civil Liberties Ranking March 2005
#13 USA
http://www.worldaudit.org/civillibs.htm

Bonus for the rightwingnuts, from their very own rightwing Heritage Foundation; 2006 ranking; #9
http://www.heritage.org/research/features/index/country.cfm?id=Unitedstates

Quality of Life; #45

In the US, Honolulu, Houston, Lexington, San Francisco, and Winston Salem rank highest in joint 45th position with scores of 104. Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Portland, and New York all follow in 58th place with scores of 100. The lowest scoring city in North America is Atlanta, ranked 90 with a score of 90.5, due to street crime and burglary.
http://www.mercerhr.com/pressrelease/details.jhtml/dynamic/idContent/1173105

Human Development; #10
http://hdr.undp.org/statistics/data/country_fact_sheets/cty_fs_USA.html


Literacy; 49th. Infant mortality; 41st. (Cuba beats us) And a whole lot more sad facts & figures;
http://www.citypages.com/databank/26/1264/article12985.asp

HTH.
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:23 AM
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10. thanks, can't fight without ammo
In our case is truth.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:30 AM
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11. True...but rightwingnuts just run & hide from the truth.
They vote against their own & their childrens' best interests because they run & hide from the truth.

Poor things. Pity them when they can no longer run & hide; their shock is gonna be immense.
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:37 AM
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12. sad truth
Right wing friends of mine just lost a grandson to *'s fake war. Can't help but wonder if after the grief wears off (if it ever does) if the truth will blindside them. Not wishing it on them, they have enough to bear, but is that what it takes to wake one up?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:54 AM
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14. That's what it took another nation of generally good people who
refused to face the horrific truths, preferring to beat their chests and chant "we're the greatest!".
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ZapaPaine Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:41 AM
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13. Perhaps the Times will do something similar...
with the number of Iraqi civilians killed by US bombings, shootings, torture, covert ops, missile strikes? Why stop with those attributed, but not confirmed, to the insurgents? Let's see how many people we are killing. Wishful thinking, I know, but that graph would be 10 times as large as this one.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 11:55 AM
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15. We don't chart sub-human deaths. They do not compute.
Only American deaths count.

But only when bush-god says they count.
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ZapaPaine Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 12:01 PM
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16. The Times has ceased to be considered trustworthy news...
It is nothing but a propaganda machine for the Establishment, a tool for fascist thought. Sub-human Iraqis should not be counted because "we don't do bodycounts." Almost like sub-human Palestinians aren't counted, either. Funny how this sub-human stuff works.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 12:10 PM
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17. It's easy to learn how the sub-human stuff works...
All white rightwing christian (yeah that's a contradiction, but that's rightwingnuttery for ya) American males are good guys.

All other Americans are tolerable and to be simply ignored most the time.

All other human beings are sub.

"rats" ... "vermin" ...

FUnny thang, kinda sounds like Nazism of the '30s and 40s, don't it.
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