GOPS Worst Fear
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Mon Feb-06-06 10:40 AM
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Anyone See O'Reilly Marithon last night? |
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Edited on Mon Feb-06-06 10:42 AM by GOPS Worst Fear
The idiot claims Air America is still losing money. He claims the company is paying it's affiliates huge sums of money to air it's programing and not the other way around. He mentioned AA is paying Franken 2 million dollars a year and also mentioned Garafalo 200+ grand and that Randi Rhodes makes $350,000. He claims they are still being bankrolled by two different rich guys. Soros and another guy..and that they are still losing money and won't be around much longer..
...anyone here know anything more? Is this true? Or wishful thinking on O'Reilly's part?
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Mon Feb-06-06 10:47 AM
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1. I certainly wouldn't waste my time... |
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paying a bit of attention to him or anything he says. I don't think the truth is all that consequential to him. He's a desperate circus sideshow.
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Mon Feb-06-06 10:48 AM
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2. this fucking thread must be on an infinite loop |
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Mon Feb-06-06 10:52 AM
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4. This topic does seem to surface a lot. |
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Mon Feb-06-06 11:37 AM
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papau
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Mon Feb-06-06 10:49 AM
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3. Rush on his own loses $50 million a year for the right - or at least did |
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so until very recently (I have not seen numbers for last 2 years).
Paying to air as in an infocommercial was indeed the method that has been used to get many of the right wing shows onto the air waves - so I guess he is assuming that is the method used by the left (he is wrong).
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Mon Feb-06-06 11:35 AM
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5. Faux news comes to you at the whim |
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of Rupert Murdoch--so what is he running his yap for?
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ProfessorGAC
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Mon Feb-06-06 11:52 AM
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7. O'Reilly Himself For Example |
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The original method for getting him on the air was paying for airtime. His radio show has not made a dime for Faux. Not one dime, because they bankrolled the original launch and paid MILLIONS to get his show aired. The Professor
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papau
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Mon Feb-06-06 12:12 PM
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8. I did not realize the infomercial method used for Rush was O'Reilly's |
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launch method!
But I should have guessed it was.
Years ago I called up the Rush operation and the local station carrying him to see how commercials were sold (I was curious as to why all Prep H creams and hair restoration and vitamin ads were being run, and just about zero local advertising). I found out about the "insert" commercials, and the fact the local station only had a few time slots over 3 hours to sell - and they were not selling.
Yet our US Media was telling us how the American Public wanted right wing talk - and that left wing talk could not be broadcast because if it could make a profit the media giants would be broadcasting left wing talk.
I realized at that point that the US Main Stream Media had moved from RW spin to out right lies for the RW.
It is interesting that foreign media is looking at the US Market because they assume US Folks want media they can trust - and that folks were tired of the New York Times and Washington Post spinning everything anti-Democratic Party all the time.
It will interesting to see if foreign media do actually enter the US Market - I suspect Internet versions, at least, are headed our way. :-)
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ProfessorGAC
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Mon Feb-06-06 12:16 PM
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9. There Was Lots Of Discussion Here |
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Should be in the archives somewhere. There would be details there! The Professor
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Mon Feb-06-06 12:18 PM
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10. someone needs to ask him about the Saudis paying his wages.. |
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Prince Alwaleed bin talal to be exact..
thestreet.com/_googlen/stocks/sandybrown/10241127.html?...&cm_ite=NA Saudi Prince Embraces Murdoch
By Sandy Brown TheStreet.com Staff Reporter 9/6/2005 12:09 PM EDT
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Famed investor Prince Alwaleed bin Talal has raised his voting stake in the New York media giant to 5.46% and reaffirmed his support for Murdoch. The news comes as Murdoch is on less affectionate terms with another big shareholder, Liberty Media (L:NYSE - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) Chairman John Malone. News Corp. has had to contend with a tricky situation as Malone, a longtime shareholder in the owner of the Fox broadcast network and other media assets, last fall quietly doubled his voting stake to 18%. In return, News Corp. adopted a poison pill provision that the company extended last month, saying it will maintain the restrictions on big shareholdings until the Liberty standoff is resolved.
Alwaleed, one of the richest men in the world, has converted a 3% stake in News Corp. nonvoting class A shares to the 5.46% class B voting holding.
"Last November I said that I had the utmost confidence in Mr. Murdoch, his management team and his succession planning, and that if necessary, the Kingdom companies would replace their non-voting shares with voting shares," the prince said. "The Kingdom companies now own a significant interest in News Corporation voting shares and may purchase more if the situation warrants."
Prince also owns other media holdings - such as Disney. IMO he is more than likely behind the furor over the Danish cartoons.
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Mon Feb-06-06 12:39 PM
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12. Yeah, a company bankrolled by one or two rich guys can't be trusted |
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right, Bill OhReally, of Faux News Channel???
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Mon Feb-06-06 12:43 PM
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13. That's Sure News To Clear Channel |
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First...does anyone know how long it took for Faux Noise to turn a profit? 7 years. And the money NewsCorp makes from Faux Noise? Chump change. They make more running a rerun of The Family Guy that earns higher ratings and revenues in 30 minutes than Faux Noise generates in a week.
As usual, Falafel Boy forgets his own pissing and moaning in the days when Faux was way behind CNN and people were predicting that network's demise.
AAR has added affiliates and continues to expand. They are a program provider...their main job is to provide material for its affiliates who are the ones who make the real money. AAR gets a few minutes from each hour, but its the local AAR affiliates that have to fill up the rest of the time or go bust. Almost all formats work the same way...and when a local station can't pay the bills, it switches formats. So far, AAR has lost just a handful of stations and in each case has picked up a better affiliate to replace it with. This is very impressive considering that overall radio ratings and revenues have been in a non-stop 5 year tailspin.
As far as salaries...would Mr. Falafel be willing to disclose all his sources of income? Also how much of that huge bankroll he actually gave to help 9/11 victims or how many times he's visited troops in Iraq or in a military hospital? Wanna compare what he does for our country compared to Franken and Garafalo? Don't even go there, Billy boy...you got bit real bad the last time you tried...and all but made AAR possible.
The ultimate testimony that AAR is doing well is the fact O'Reilly is compelled to take a shot at it. You don't fear things that can't hurt you...AAR hurts Billy boy. It not only gives a voice to the majority who aren't buying his RNC horseshit and "common guy" bullshit act but it also knocked him off several stations and has made it difficult to syndicate his loser of a radio show. He's lucky to get graveyard hours on stations now.
Ya gotta love it when they cry those crocodile tears.
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Mon Feb-06-06 12:52 PM
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14. wow I cought some of that last night |
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then went online to find out if he was telling the truth about them having problems with ratings. I was not able to find out any information from non partison sources. I like that station and would be sad to see it go away. The right has soo much talk radio and thats all we have.
The only info I had to go on is that O Liely has been saying Air america was going to go under for all of 04 and 05 and so now that its still here he needs an excuse, so he brings out that its on the air because rich Dems are giving it money.
I care little about that, but more about how they are doing ratings wise in the biggest markets.
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Mon Feb-06-06 12:58 PM
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15. If money is such a big issue to the falafel master... |
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Why doesnt he disclose how much he makes? Or why doesnt he disclose the fact that both our president and vice president are former OIL BILLIONAIRES who have more money than God himself?
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