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G2099 Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:00 AM
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Quantum leap in physics?
Within months, company officials say, they will offer critical information and possibly even a prototype of an energy generating device that functions according to the principles that BlackLight's founder, Randell Mills, says he has discovered.

With enough financial and marketing support, the energy could be available for use worldwide in just a few years, BlackLight researchers say.

"This technology could eliminate gasoline altogether," said Mills of his radical theory. "I think it will have extraordinary impact."

http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1136192775314670.xml&coll=5&thispage=1#continue
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Tommy_J Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:04 AM
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1. I wouldn't hold my breath...

Ever notice how some breakthroughs are always just months away? Blacklight has been saying that for years.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:07 AM
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3. But it would be sweet
to see all those oil rats be
thrust out of business
(and government)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 12:23 PM
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17. They'd buy the rights and patents and lock them up forever
before being put out of business
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:06 AM
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2. Just months away
along with the number two guy in Al Queda..

and the first successful diet pill.

Wait, wait, wait. I'm getting too old to wait!
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thefool_wa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:14 AM
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10. TG you crack me up
Edited on Mon Jan-02-06 11:17 AM by thefool_wa
always with witty repartee, most excellent.

I am no grannie and I am getting too old to wait, I mean its 2K6, where's my f***ing flying car!
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:38 AM
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13. Yeah, and how about that
particle transfer thing and the replicator? And a vat full of extra organs? We need to get on the stick!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 12:15 PM
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15. I want my house cleaning robot.
And NO. I do not mean one of those vacuum cleaner robots that you get to trip over any time you want to walk in the living room.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:09 AM
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4. The Wheel That Never Stops Spinning
And other perpetual motion machines.

No power in, no power out.

Its not hard to understand.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:10 AM
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5. Uh-huh. Just like cold fusion, Isn't it?
And we all know how well THAT turned out, don't we?

Feh.

Redstone
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:13 AM
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8. "With enough financial and marketing support"
press-release-ese for "looking for investors". Caveat emptor.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:12 AM
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6. Cargo Cultists
If we wait for these guys to succeed, then we are no different that the cargo cults that sprung up on Pacific islands during WWII.

PT Barnum would be proud of these guys and all the others that will undoubtedly appear in the next few years as Peak Oil hits.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:12 AM
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7. i will then throw off my disguise as a gay human
i am in fact a gay alien -- and i will steal the device and return to venus.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:14 AM
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9. If it does work, we'll never know.
It'll be discredited and/or supressed, and the designer will be accidented.

They should have kept their mouths shut until they had a working prototype to show, along with an airtight peer review report.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:18 AM
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11. For how many years now has Blacklight been months away
from this breakthrough?

I'm pretty sure I read this same line in 2004.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:20 AM
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12. The oil companies will just supress it.
Just like they did with the electric car and the IC engine that runs on tap water.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 12:20 PM
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16. Those aren't the same things
There are electric cars; there aren't IC engines running on tap water. So it's a bit difficult for oil companies to suppress this in a similar way to two completely different things. You have to choose one of them.
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OldCurmudgeon Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 11:49 AM
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14. just another example...
just another example of "faith based" R&D, following along the ancient path pioneered by the alchemists, who sometimes managed to turn bullshit into gold.

Really, these guys need to hook up with the IDiots; I hear they have a large supply of gullible supporters that just love irreducibly complex doubletalk.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 12:28 PM
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18. What a bunch of crap. If "hydrinos" are already producing power as the
article claims, then the company would have all the money it needs. It could sell power for a while, then scale up and sell some more. Why doesn't this guy publish in the journal Science? If these hydrinos are real, others should be able to duplicate the effect. The reason is that this is all crap and a scam to bilk investors.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 12:31 PM
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19. Questionable claims.
I am always skeptical of scientific claims which are promoted like this. If the science for this so-called breakthrough is robust it should be able to stand up to academic peer review. This looks very much like moonshine to get funding

One worrisome thing is the article talks about quantum mechanics and Maxwell's equations in the same context. James Clerk Maxwell worked out the unification of electricity, magnetism, and light, but his equations were classical physics, not quantum mechanics. It took Einstein with the photoelectric effect, Bohr with his hydrogen atom model, Pauli with his exclusion principle, Heisenberg with his uncertainty principle, and Feynman with QED to define the quantum behavior of atoms.

I suspect that this *is* junk science because the realm of energy levels in the hydrogen atom is definitely within the quantum realm. These levels were already worked out by Bohr before 1920. For this guy to claim that Bohr's model is wrong using a classical theory (as opposed to a quantum one) flags this as moonshine. Plus, the Pauli exclusion principle would seem to negate his claim for a lower state.

I have a suggestion for this guy. Submit your findings to academic peer review and see how it stands. I predict that he wouldn't even get published.
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