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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 06:47 PM
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Here we go again: Rummy on new Hitlers and Lenins to take out.
I thought Saddam was "the new Hitler." Now, apparently, we have more. War in Iraq has worked just great to make us safer. Not, as Rummy admits here. We have heard this rhetoric before, quite obviously. Forgive the execrable source, but it has more than a ring of truth:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/2/5/103826.shtml?s=et&promo_code=1AC8-1

. . .Still, the U.S. defense chief warned that the rise of Islamofacism could by just as deadly as Nazi Germany and the early decades of the Soviet Union:

"During the 1920s, few people took seriously what some characterized as the mad ravings of a failed painter's book, Mein Kampf," Rumsfeld said. "Similarly, most people earlier ignored the excited utterances of an exiled lawyer -- a so-called rabble rouser -- named Lenin, who had published the pamphlet, 'What is to be Done?'

"But imagine," he posited, "if we could go back today, knowing what we know now about Adolph Hitler and Lenin, to warn the world about those two individuals before they spawned their movements and before literally tens of millions of human beings on this earth were victims -- were killed?"




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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 06:49 PM
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1. There are things he knows he knows and he's just sharing.
:rofl:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 06:58 PM
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9. Rumsfeld's mind is a known unknown.
He should donate his corpse to science so we can prevent future tragedies like him.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 07:03 PM
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11. Agree. I wish he was an unthought unknown to us all. n/t
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 06:50 PM
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2. Ring of truth.. or truthiness?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 07:02 PM
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10. Only truth that he said it. Not even truthiness for comments themselves.
Rummy is "setting the stage," as it were. Funny thing, always felt Iran loomed as a threat, but Iraq was easily contained. Real funny. Ha (not).

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 06:50 PM
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3. It's fun to imagine what could have happened.
It sounds like he's been reading a few too many Larry Turtledove novels lately.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 06:51 PM
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4. It's not as much the religion as it is the whacked-out cranky followers of
The problem is, how do you tell the whackos to grow up and work WITH people?

Worse, when blood is split, where and when does it end?

This idiotic spat has been going on for hundreds of years. Nobody's bothered to grow up and now it's expanded big-time as a result.

Maybe it never ends. Until humanity does.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 06:51 PM
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5. Imagine if we could go back 6 years and warn the world about scrub"
Think where we'd be today.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 06:52 PM
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6. Little better. peak oil would still be a big issue.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 06:54 PM
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7. Ya know .......
I posted about 2 weeks ago that the PNAC documents were the Bush Regimes 'Mein Kampf' in a way ...... and since Fascism is more associated with the relationship between Corporations and Government ..... I'd say my interpretation is more accurate. Peace. :)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 06:55 PM
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8. Where are they, then?
They must be living in a giant underground city somehwere, in Rumfailed's tortured mind.

Both Lenin and Hitler BOTH had armies, navies, airforces and the giant industrial bases to support them. Not to mention cohesive political ideologies.

Now, what do "Islamofascists" have? Diffuse groups of persecuted religious sects (except in Saudi Arabia), who can't even see eye-to-eye on their own basic goals.

The ONE thing they have is hatred for the West and specifically the US. For obvious reasons.
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 07:08 PM
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12. Yeah, and like that Thomas Paine guy...
It wasn't Lenin or communism that killed millions, it was Stalin.

Donald Rumsfeld is a crank.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 07:16 PM
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14. I wondered when somebody would catch that. Good job.
This administration's ignorance of history is stunning. I would take them all on in one Jeopardy game, American and World History categories. The madness. Sheer madness. I can hardly even enumerate it anymore. Your prize is this upbeat piece of reading.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/28/AR2006012801021.html

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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 07:38 PM
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15. Bush was a history major...
at Yale. That's where he learned to never learn from history.

Or is it that beer and cocaine are better than history?

Either way, "history" will always play a large roll in his administration as long as it's "history" and not the boring 'ol fact laden history.

Thanks for the article, now I really just want to wear my monitor as a hat. The broken glass should help keep it on.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-06-06 07:13 PM
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13. Projecting, again, eh Rummy.
Freaking neo-fascist! EW! :grr:
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