Did anybody notice Gonzo's answers during his tapdance?

[MiniMe]

When they were asking him about opening first class mail and reading emails, his answer was "not under the program that I'm testifying about today", but would never answer no. What a CYA tapdance. And I'm so sick of not being able to say anything because of "ongoing investigations" and "ongoing operations". Of course they are asking him about ongoing operations, that is what oversight is all about. :rant:

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Yes, and they create secret programs with all kinds of goofy names all the

time. They can never be held to account unless you know the name of the program you are asking them about!

[atommom]

2. This admin is heavy on the Razzle Dazzle approach.

Give 'em the old razzle dazzle
Razzle Dazzle 'em
Give 'em an act with lots of flash in it
And the reaction will be passionate
Give 'em the old hocus pocus
Bead and feather 'em
How can they see with sequins in their eyes?

What if your hinges all are rusting?
What if, in fact, you're just disgusting?

Razzle dazzle 'em
And they;ll never catch wise!

Give 'em the old Razzle Dazzle

Razzle dazzle 'em
Give 'em a show that's so splendiferous

Row after row will crow vociferous

Give 'em the old flim flam flummox
Fool and fracture 'em

How can they hear the truth above the roar?

Throw 'em a fake and a finagle
They'll never know you're just a bagel,

Razzle dazzle 'em
And they'll beg you for more!

Give 'em the old double whammy
Daze and dizzy 'em
Back since the days of old Methuselah
Everyone loves the big bambooz-a-ler

Give 'em the old three ring circus
Stun and stagger 'em
When you're in trouble, go into your dance

Though you are stiffer than a girder
They'll let you get away with murder
Razzle dazzle 'em
And you've got a romance

Give 'em the old Razzle Dazzle
Razzle dazzle 'em
Show 'em the first rate sorceror you are
Long as you keep 'em way off balance
How can they spot you've got no talent
Razzle Dazzle 'em

And they'll make you a star!

[napi21]

3. Well, first of all, he's a lawyer, so he knows HOW to "not answer

questions". Second, this MO has been working very well for this admin, so they're going to keep using it until they're forced not to!

[madokie]

4. "not under the program that I'm testifying about today",

somethings happening here and it isn't exactly fear. he was trotted out for the MSM. You, I, We, need to be alarmed

[bluethruandthru]

5. Was he ever directly asked about giving that qualifier?

He said it over and over and gave the distinct impression that there are other promgrams he's not talking about.

[madokie]

6. Not to my knowledge, being the tool he is I'm not surprised

[HereSince1628]

7. I think yes. Feinstein was fairly frustrated and said flat out she

believed the spying effort was much larger and broader than Gonzales was admitting.

[BlueEyedSon]

9. "And you should see those other programs, they're DOOZIES!"

[SillyGoose]

8. Yep, and he also said " I am only here testisfying to what the President

has confirmed".

That really got me to sit up and take notice. I interpreted that to mean there's more to this 'program' that is not being discussed in that hearing or anywhere else, for that matter.

I agree with you about the "ongoing investigation" and "ongoing operations" lines. That's the standard answer to just about everything these days and I'm sick of it, too.

[Mnemosyne]

10. They ARE opening mail. They did it to me.

It happened to me last year, wait, in 2004. And it wasn't in a plastic bag with a note and a phony excuse from the USPS.

I started getting mail with the wide clear postal tape across the flaps. The flaps looked undisturbed. A piece at a time over a couple months, maybe 8 to 10 pieces total if I'm recalling correctly. I didn't think much about it at first until a friend pointed out that he had never had any mail come like that. I only got a couple pieces after that, but saved them in a zip-lock baggie. I wish I had saved them all.

So I started asking people if they ever received taped mail. No one I could find has/had ever gotten mail like what I received.

Has anyone else here gotten mail like I've described?

In peace and hope,
V