I don't know who's worse, the maniacle religious wackos torching embassies

[mtnsnake]

in Europe or the fanatical religious rightwing nuts over here who just love to incite their own brand of hatred and division within our own country. To me they're all just as bad because they all preach hatred, intolerance, and division in the name of religion.

It's no small wonder that more people have been killed in the name of religion than for any other other cause.

They ought to partition off a huge chunk of wasteland on some remote corner of the earth, let Pat Robertson & his clan go at it with the nuts from other countries to do whatever it is that they wanna do with each other....and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

(disclaimer: I'm not talking about the millions of religious people in the world who keep their faith private and mind their own business, just the fanatical hate-filled nuts)

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. I think that the ones over here, if they thought they could get away with

it, would incite torching here too. (And I think they have to a limited degree.. family planning clinics and so forth.)

[Missy M]

4. Yes, they bomb women's clinics and kill doctors who provide...

abortions. I can't think of anything more violent than that, relating to religious beliefs.

[sam sarrha]

5. i agree, it is only the intuition of ass Rape in prison the keeps the

fundies in line..

the particular person this is all about, was a 'Channeler' who would be in a mental hospital today, or wandering skid row talking to the sky

the story about Abraham hallucinating a blazing being telling him to kill his child... so why isn't the schizophrenic woman who killed '5' children a Prophet 'ACE'..!!!!!!!!

[GreenPartyVoter]

6. True.. When I get "messages from above" that are contrary to

fundagelical teachings I am told that they are not really messages from God. X(

[catnhatnh]

2. My "magical thinking" Supreme Being .....

is better than your's....YAY! Camp color wars!!!

[KittyWampus]

3. Both are like alchoholics in need of an intervention

Rational people of faith and Moderate Republicans need to force these extremists to confront their destructive and let them know we will no longer tolerate them interferring in our lives.

To a certain extent, we can't make them turn away from their destructive behavior, but we can so our best to keep them from hurting the rest of us.

And perhaps if we DID this, they'd "Hit Bottom" and wake up.

[sam sarrha]

9. after 30 years of hard drinking i met a Tibetan Lama and started meditating

my alcoholism just ..'fell away', i had given up on any possibility of recovery..i had tried it all.

Buddhism was like coming home, a hand in a glove.. it was so logical i was dumbfounded by its simplicity.. and how it explained suffering for me..

I had been meditating seriously for 3 years, studying the Lojong, Tonglen and Heart Sutra, etc, 2 meetings a week and weekend meditations, retreats.. then during a group meditation i had a universal revelation that Buddhism was just like an AA group except it was for people addicted to 'Conventional Thought'.

after the meditation people started staring at me and then Helga says,.. come on tell us.!

I have Aspergers Syndrome and am blind to social interaction, so i always have a poker face in public and dont move much, because i cant read verbal inflection-i have a 'flat monotone' voice because i cant inflect and dont want to project the wrong inflection, and i cant read body language, social inflection. i see and speak literally, i am a high functioning autistic. I have an IQ of 164 but i am basically functionally illiterate. i am a lot like Dr Spock.. so i was surprised they thought i was 'sending' something.

i told them and everybody smiled for a while and nodded.. a discussion followed and everybody seemed to agree, 3 other people also revealed they had started practicing because it worked for them to quit drinking and using drugs, several other said that they had also unexpectedly quit smoking without realizing it.. they all said that meditation had created a much better world socially and interpersonally. one thing it did for me was to eliminate a lot of the panic and stress being around people causes, and helps clarify and focus my thoughts

[Double T]

7. There would be far less war and destruction on ALL continents...........

without the extreme fundamentalist religious zealots.

[Burning Water]

8. Maybe in their hearts

they're just as bad. But surely the more urgent problem are the people that are rioting, kidnapping, beheading, and burning, right now, not in some distant past or hypothetical future.

Problems can be solved one at a time, but hardly ever all at once.

The MidEast fanatics are 1) worse, 2) more immediately urgent, and 3) most probably more important as there are so many more of them.

Just my opinion.

[sam sarrha]

10. i wonder to what degree they are just Thug and criminal types to begin with

and since the person that started it all was quite possably a mentally ill/schizophrenic channeler, so the lunatic fringe gets more slack cut for them because who knows.. the extremists might really be inspired by the god in question.. consider its origins, the linage comes from another schizophrenic.. Abraham/ hears voices to sacrifice his child to illuminated god..??!!

[Burning Water]

14. I don't know.

But there sure are a lot of them.

I'm not sure of the point of the rest of your post. It doesn't seem to address the question of whether Christian or Muslim fundies are the worst, most dangerous, etc. in the current time.

[NNN0LHI]

11. Maniacal religious wackos? Bush said he checked with God before...

...killing 30,000 Iraqis by mistake. Now there is a maniacal religious wacko if you ever want to see one. And about half this country support his efforts. Isn't that scary?

Don

[sam sarrha]

12. that is the cause of the civil war and it is over150,000

[NNN0LHI]

13. Bush took responsibility for 30,000 Iraqi deaths on live TV. I saw him

No one wants to talk about that though. Its all "look at them Muslims breaking the law over there."

Don