Fla. Pastor Accused Of Throwing Puppies From Pickup Truck

[sasha031]

A Springfield pastor was arrested and charged with animal cruelty after a witness told police he saw the pastor throwing puppies from a pickup truck, according to a report.
"He was actually throwing them, not setting them down, but throwing them as far as the trees. Just chucking them," Tiencken said. "He said, 'I told my wife. You don't have to call the police. You don't have to call them.'"

Tiencken called the police anyway.The detectives who tracked down Kohn said they found the malnourished mother of the puppies chained-up at Kohn's home along with four or five more puppies that had no food or water, according to the WJXT-TV report.

The dogs are now being cared for at animal control.

http://www.local6.com/news/6803904/detail.html

[stop the bleeding]

1. Sometimes I just HATE people - period - also leave it to Florida to

make the news in another unusual way

BTW I live outside of Tampa

[jsamuel]

22. ha, in other states than FL, no one would have called it in and if they

did call it in, nothing would have been done...

FL and the environment/animals is one of the best states for those issues.

[stop the bleeding]

25. Yeah for all of the good things we try to do here we have that many

more rednecks with "W" stickers on their cars trying to mess things up.

[f-bush]

2. I'm sure the guy's a fundamental puke!!!

[TallahasseeGrannie]

3. You know it

those religious guys are known for throwing puppies off trucks!

LOL

[sasha031]

6. the fundies have taken Christianity and turned into something bad

well I guess it's not the 1st time it happened in history,what is wrong with this country..

[TallahasseeGrannie]

8. I don't know where in FL this happened

but living here can tell you that some country folks handle their excess animals just this way..

drowning, leaving in the woods, etc. It is pitiful.

[stop the bleeding]

24. Panama City - Springfield is a suburb

http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Springfield,+FL

[Arkansas Granny]

28. What you say is true and probably applies to any area of the

country. It's a very inhumane practice, but some people think that their animals will miraculously find a good home in the country. Nothing is further from the truth. They wind up being run over, shot or dying from disease or starvation. Euthanizing unwanted animals is much kinder than dumping them.

[FreedomAngel82]

45. Don't they know what a pound it?

[earth mom]

4. Nice Christian Values-NOT!

:grr:

[displacedtexan]

5. Dominion

I'm sure that's the pastor's sorry-assed excuse.

[SOS]

12. When they pull out the old "dominion" canard

It's good to remind them that the Queen of England has dominion over Her subjects.
But she can't throw them out the window of her pickup truck!

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

23. Having dominion also implies responsibility

even the kings and queens of old were expected to take good care of their subjects-having dominion over the earth means we have a great resposibility towards all living things.

[expatriot]

13. Dominion: the Power of Man, the Suffering of Animals and the Call to Mercy

Check it out:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0312261470/ref=sib_rdr_dp/103-8822857-9635005?me=ATVPDKIKX0DER&no=283155&st=books&n=283155

[meow2u3]

27. Dominion implies the power to tame animals

It doesn't mean humans have a license to abuse them!

[renate]

42. it's been a long time since I read that book, but...

I believe that the point the author of "Dominion" was making was that since (according to the Bible) humans were given dominion over animals, it is our moral responsibility to care for them humanely.

It's a very good book. The author is a vegetarian, I think, and it made me glad to be one too.

Definitely not a pro-animal-abuse book. And I don't think it was even pro-taming, particularly. More of a stewardship/sacred trust thing.

[formercia]

7. Nothing like setting an example for all to see.

Speaking of examples, he needs to be made one.

[expatriot]

9. "Whatsoever you do unto the least of these...

you do unto me."


A fair warning from a teacher this "pastor" supposedly holds in high regard.


It is for persons like these that I want so badly to believe a hell exists.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

10. his particular hell will be...

being eaten "alive" by starving puppies for all eternity.

Karma baby!

[GreenPartyVoter]

26. You said exactly what I think

[BlueEyedSon]

37. I'll contribute my atheist AMEN to that

[noonwitch]

11. Mistreatment of the puppies has little to do with his religion

He's just a jerk who likes to hurt animals. They come in all shapes, sizes, religions and colors. I hope he doesn't have any children.

[MadHound]

15. True that, but it is the hypocrisy of the matter that is infuriating

The fact that he isn't just anybody, but a pastor, supposedly living the Christian faith, "Whatsoever you do unto the least of these you do unto me", and all. It is the hypocrisy that is particularly outrageous.

[MostlyLurks]

17. His religion does have something to do with it.

The ethos of Christianity is rooted in the person who practices it. Christiniaty is not like the pantheism of the Greeks, who believed that their own behavior had little resonance to the gods (unless they directly intruded on the affairs of a god).

Christians believe that their acts have direct and lasting consequence to an almighty God. They believe that they are answerable for those acts. Therefore, EVERYTHING they do is a part of their religion: their religion is supposed to affect them on a core level, changing them in a "soul-molecular" way. It is simply wrong to assert that a Christian has the right (or the theistic ability) to divorce their actions from their religion. Christianity is about the person who practices it, as evidenced by the emphasis on salvation of the soul. The actions are directly linked to the Christian, ergo the what he does has everything to do with his religion.

Mostly

[Beelzebud]

14. This is probably something to kill the time between child rapings.

[Auntie Bush]

16. Another Fundy fucker got caught. My these people are cruel! n/t

[4guvie]

18. doesn't suprise me!!!

I live in Lakeland, Fl but I was born in Pittsburgh, home of the Super Bowl Steelers!! I drive a bus in this area and you just can't believe how many people let their animals run wild! It is sickening to see how many dead dogs and cats there are along the roads here.

[LuCifer]

21. I hate when you see...

...some douche-neck in a pickup, with their dog(s) just left there standing on the tool box thing. That pisses me off to NO end. But I'm just down the street from ya in Ft. Drum, so, GO FIGURE. Like my sister says "they sure do inbreed 'em REAL good around here!" And I can say that being a native of this HELLHOLE STATE! Oh yeah, and Jeb sucks my butt. I feel a little better now.

Lu Cifer, please note that the hurting of animals (aside from self-defense, or for food) along with rape and hurting of childern is EXPRESSLY CONDEMNED in MY religion...THE CHURCH OF SATAN, thank you VERY much...I just mention this is passing, and also since it is true, it happens to give it that extra OOMPH, that extra FORCE!

[sakabatou]

19. It's always the weird stuff coming from Fla. or Germany...

But this is just sick. :puke:

[Nutmegger]

20. Will somebody please share the bible verse

where it says that this is okay?

God, I hate hypocrites. Especially religious ones.

[progressoid]

36. Old Testament: Caninicus 4 verses 3-4

And a man from Canaan known as Dumb Shiticus did find his best friend didst know another man's best friend. Thus he didst become encumbered with an abundance of best Friends. To relieve himself of the redundant animals, Dumb Shiticus then threw them from his moving chariot.

And God did see this and said to him, "Dumb Shiticus, don't pitcheth thine puppies from thine chariot. Instead, take them further east where they will make nice gloves out of them and sell them to Wallius Martius"

Thus sayeth the Lord.

Hmmm....too cruel?

[Nutmegger]

38. LOL

Yeah, that seems about right. I've been slipping on my bible these days, thanks!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[lpbk2713]

29. "Chaysuss told me to do it."

Or maybe it was Pat Robertson.

Same thing.

They were sinful puppies.

[Triana]

30. OK. When does someone get to throw HIM out of a moving pickup truck

onto the highway -- after he's not fed food or water for about 3 weeks. If it's good enough for the puppies and the mother dog, it's good enough for an extremeist fundie hate-monger.

[MountainLaurel]

34. Can I sign up?

:evilgrin:

[Pacifist Patriot]

31. OMG! He and his wife have billboards. I saw one yesterday.

I guest spoke at a UU society in Orlando. As I was driving out of town on 50 I saw a huge billboard for a church that featured a picture of Kohn and his wife. They are both ministers. I have to confess to a few pangs of jealousy at the thought of having a church that could afford billboards. Sad and despicable.

[Katherine Brengle]

32. HOW COULD ANYONE DO THAT? ugh... n/t

[Synnical]

33. Damn - Second abused dog story I've read today

http://www.southflorida.com/news/ny-lidog074616883feb07,0,1518596.story?coll=sfla-news-fringe

Official: Dog starved by owner swallowed rocks

A malnourished rottweiler ate five stones in an almost deadly attempt to ease hunger pangs

BY ERIK GERMAN
STAFF WRITER
Posted February 7 2006

Cali the starving rottweiler became so hungry that she swallowed five golf-ball-sized rocks in her North Bellport backyard last month in a near fatal attempt to ease hunger pangs, rescuers said.

By the time she had emergency surgery to remove the stones, 4-year-old Cali weighed just 40 pounds. "She was skin and bones," said Matthew Kearns, the veterinarian who treated the rottweiler at Animal Emergency Services in Selden.

Though Cali was lucky, her sister rottweiler wasn't. She died of malnourishment shortly after Suffolk police found the two starving dogs and turned them over to Brookhaven animal control officers.

[zbdent]

35. Wait a minute, it's OK - IT'S OKAY!

Remember, he "informed" his wife that he was doing this . . . according to Repuke logic, (the Bush precedent) because he informed someone, he could do this . . . :sarcasm:

[Initech]

39. Wow, that's fucking sick. And another reason why people suck in general.

:argh:

[drfresh]

40. If it was a Springfield Janitor, would it have made DU? -nt

[RazzleDazzle]

41. What's your point?

[grrl62]

43. yes it would have

cruelty is cruelty regardless of occupation. i have seen many articles posted on DU re: animal abusers from all walks of life.

[FreedomAngel82]

44. Oh my gosh

:cry: Poor puppies and their mother! :cry:

Did you see the picture of the puppy? She's so sweet. :(