Tweety, McCain bashing OBama....surprised?

[Gabi Hayes]

I know there was some sort of tussle between McCain and Obama today, but haven't seen the details

but what I just saw was Matthews and McCain commiserating over the "House of Representative-like" partisanship Obama apparently displayed toward McCain!

CM blathered about how much more collegial the Senate is....WAS, maybe, and that Obama was acting like a member of the house, rather than a respectable senator

that's all I could stand, cause it was just the two of them, ganging up on Barack, without giving his side of the story

more crazy, angry, irrational, partisan dems, it sounds like

I know, it's Matthews, and I shouldn't be giving the creature the time of day, but it's getting worse and worse than one could think possible

add that to CNN/Wolf's hit piece on angry Hillary yesterday (as well as the finish of Tweety's own segment on the very same Mehlman-generated boiler room hogwash), and it makes me wonder why I ever bother

[patricia92243]

1. Tweety was absolutely squirming with delight. Repulsive. n/t

[H2O Man]

2. Cheap shots

on both of their parts. Debate him face to face, even two on one.

[Poiuyt]

3. Is there anyone in America that Tweety loves more than McCain?

The least he could have done was read Obama's response to McCain's letter. Matthews was really ripping Obama

[Pirate Smile]

4. From Talking Points Memo - are they trying to "Gore" Obama?

"A bit more on the Obama-McCain back and forth. You have to dig into the actual correspondence between the two men to get a feel for how off the mark McCain is in his criticism of Obama (see links in today's Daily Muck).

But the key here to note is what's behind this dust-up. Obama is a rising star among the Democrats. Republicans want to lay a backstory for feature criticisms and character attacks against him. So, for instance, if Obama is the vice presidential candidate in 2008, they want to have a history of attacks on him banked, ones that allege he's a liar, or too partisan, or untrustworthy, whatever. It doesn't even really matter. What matters is that there already be an established history of them. Point being, that in early 2008, they want to be able to simply refer back to Obama's 'character issue', the questions about his honesty, etc. rather than have to make the case on its merits.

That's not surprising. One only needs to think back to the Gore story, etc.

What shouldn't be missed here, though, is that Sen. McCain is quite consciously and deliberately making himself a part of this. Why? Simple. Because he needs to get right with the GOP establishment in DC. (Indeed, he probably also wants to be the future beneficiary of the sliming.) Being loved by moderates and progressives doesn't cut it for getting the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.

Don't miss why he's doing this. It's the roll-out of the slime Obama campaign. And he's leading the charge.

We'll learn a lot from how Obama responds.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/007623.php


It later asks - "Will Lieberman slip Obama the shiv? Matt Stoller walks us through the possibilities." http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/007625.php

http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/2/7/16438/20556

MyDD adds more:

"This is worth expanding on a bit. There were two other people at the meeting - Susan Collins, moderate Republican from Maine and Democrat Joe Lieberman, the moderate Democrat from Connecticut. Lieberman can and will weigh in on this conflict, and were he a reasonable man I would imagine he would take one look at the series of letters and realize that John McCain was way out of line. Now, this is the critical point to keep in mind - Lieberman is the only Democratic Senator who was in the room at the time, so the press will pay special attention to what he says. Lieberman can call out McCain on his partisan slash-and-burn strategy, and buttress Obama's claim to bipartisanship. Or he can participate in the smear and ask both sides to calm down, even though this attack is entirely one-sided and it is very clear that Obama is seeking a bipartisan good ethics bill.

That's what I'm watching. Will Lieberman support his fellow Democratic Senate colleague in pursuit of a well-structured bipartisan approach to ethics reform? Or will he support John McCain's (who he quasi-endorsed for President) attempt to derail the whole process?

And Ned Lamont should be watching this too. If Obama gets sandbagged by his colleague, it'll test a lot of insiders' patience with Lieberman. The netroots can't beat Lieberman alone, but with enough enemies, we can help Lieberman beat himself.

Stay tuned...

UPDATE: I'm told Pryor attended part of the meeting as well."

[Gabi Hayes]

14. thanks for that; should have known they have a very nefarious agenda.

the dems really need to SCREAM bloody murder over all this ever more blatant media complicity

that crap about Hillary's anger issues, added to this must NOT go unanswered

when are the spineless ones going to finally take the offensive on ANYthing?

getting very tired of waiting for them to stop keeping the powder dry

[rodeodance]

5. he wants to sensationalize the disagreement--make it something more

than it was/is.

[Blue Belle]

6. I'm sure they'll give Obama a chance for a rebuttal...

that's if Russert doesn't take up all Obama's interview time asking him to interpret Reverend Lowerey's speech at Coretta Scott King's funeral. :eyes:

[a kennedy]

7. Yeah, I saw it......and that guy who did the reporting of it......

was talking about, Obama being a "star" in the democratic party and mccain was a star in the repub party, thus it was like a "star wars" and gave this stupid kinda grin.......just made me want to hurl. :puke: :puke: :puke:

[thefloyd]

8. Obama made a great move

Why? Obama wants to use the comittee process in order to provide a public forum to discuss a reform agenda. McCain would torpedo any such hearings in public view and ram through some bullshit proposal and claim the reform was bipartisan. Obama should be praised.

[Gabi Hayes]

10. thanks.....I wondered what was up....McCain is just about as low

as Bush or Cheney in my book

ever since he allowed them to ruin him in SC in 2000, I've lost what little respect I ever had for him

he also voted AGAINST the MLK holiday

think tweety brought that up

[Jeanette in FL]

12. I too lost any respect I had for way back in 2000

Not that I had that much for him after the Keating 5, but the whole South Carolina deal with his wife and daughter. No man would allow anybody to speak about his family like that. And when he has been questioned about it, he shrugs, "Oh Gee, that's politics, all is forgiven".

[aclog]

9. the ear in your sig pic

is ummmm weirding me out dude

It kinda looks like...y'know?

[Gabi Hayes]

11. that ear is WAY preFreudian, if that's what you're gettng at.....

Sometimes a knife is just a knife, to paraphrase

[AnnInLa]

13. From Josh Marshall:

www.talkingpointsmemo.com

But the key here to note is what's behind this dust-up. Obama is a rising star among the Democrats. Republicans want to lay a backstory for feature criticisms and character attacks against him. So, for instance, if Obama is the vice presidential candidate in 2008, they want to have a history of attacks on him banked, ones that allege he's a liar, or too partisan, or untrustworthy, whatever. It doesn't even really matter. What matters is that there already be an established history of them. Point being, that in early 2008, they want to be able to simply refer back to Obama's 'character issue', the questions about his honesty, etc. rather than have to make the case on its merits.

That's not surprising. One only needs to think back to the Gore story, etc.

What shouldn't be missed here, though, is that Sen. McCain is quite consciously and deliberately making himself a part of this. Why? Simple. Because he needs to get right with the GOP establishment in DC. (Indeed, he probably also wants to be the future beneficiary of the sliming.) Being loved by moderates and progressives doesn't cut it for getting the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.

Don't miss why he's doing this. It's the roll-out of the slime Obama campaign. And he's leading the charge.

We'll learn a lot from how Obama responds.

www.talkingpointsmemo.com

[Kierkegaard]

15. I find it fascinating that people find it so hard to stop watching

this hole. I haven't watched hardball in months and I didn't even have to wear a patch(I probably should have gotten a tetanus shot, though.) The guy is, was and always will be a pandering asshat who's loyalties are with the Creepublicans. He throws us a bone every once in a while just to get us to watch. Ain't workin' anymore.

[Berry Cool]

16. Don't forget, it's all part of Tweety's long-term goal

to smear all Republicans until the path is cleared for his personal favorite, the all-holy Rudy Giuliani, to become president.

[Disturbed]

17. John McCain, Hypocrite

John McCain, Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.


The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.


Here's what the AP's investigation found:


McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.


The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm

As for Tweety: He is just another RW Asshole. Can we get a volunteer to watch and report on his statements so the rest of us can stop watching? I haven't tuned in for many months, right after Dave Greggory left.

[The Backlash Cometh]

18. As I understand the issue, McCain asked Obama to attend the stupid

meeting. McCain's letter made it sound like it was Obama who asked for the audience. Also in Obama's letter it was clear that he let the group know that he approved a bi-partisan effort that followed the normal process which would be more open to the public.

Apparently, McCain wants his own backroom Gang of 8 like the one Feingold was talking about in regards to the wiretapping, that was giving Bush his wink, wink, nudge, nudge implied approval.

[AX10]

19. This is just the standard "bash the Democrats" segment of...

every show.

Tweety is a Republican after all.

[notadmblnd]

20. I thought McCain looked bad.

I was shocked that he would write what he did to Obama. I'm paraphrasing here but it was something to the effect that Obama needs to learn that there are other priorities, more important than making his constituents happy.

I thought WTF? Isn't that what he was elected for? His job is to represent his constituents.