Idaho group wants all wolves in the state exterminated

[montana500]

www.wilderness-sportsman.com (news section)


"COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (AP) -- An anti-wolf group wants to put an initiative on the ballot to remove wolves from the state "by any means possible."

Wolves have been controversial in Idaho since the federal government reintroduced 15 of the animals in 1995, decades after they had been killed off in the state. Some hunters say the wolves diminish deer and elk populations, while some ranchers say wolves put their livestock at risk.

The group launching the initiative, the Idaho Anti-Wolf Coalition, is tired of seeing wolves treated better than humans, Ron Gillett, head of the coalition, told The Spokesman-Review."

[MisterP]

1. pogroms: it's what's for dinner

[Kerrytravelers]

2. Anti-wolf? Oh, for Heaven's sake.

[Mythsaje]

3. Well, it's Idaho...

Next comes anyone who isn't a WASP... n/t

[nickinSTL]

4. that's just sick...

how about we wipe out the republicans in the state?

That would solve the problem, right? :mad:

(oh, and for those of you not able to recognize it...:sarcasm:)

[Hippo_Tron]

11. And that would leave a grand total of what, 1 person?

On the bright side, he could just elect himself US Senator and give us another safe seat.

[nickinSTL]

13. heh...yeah...about that

:evilgrin:

[EvolveOrConvolve]

19. That would be me.

And I don't want the damn job.

[alittlelark]

5. White people living in the state are a 'dangerous introduced species'

They are the ones that need to have their #'s checked (and their heads it seems).

Isn't Idaho the state w/ the highest b*sh support?

[montana500]

6. hehhe I think that's Utah nm

nm

[Hippo_Tron]

12. Utah beat them by a point BUT I think that Idaho is more red

Believe it or not, Utah has a fully functioning democratic party. They have a dem congressman and the dem candidate for Governor was very competitive, only losing by a few points even though the race was held during a presidential election year.

Idaho, on the other hand, doesn't really even have two parties. The thought of a democrat being elected to any major office in Idaho is laughable.

It's really a shame too, because Idaho once had a great democratic senator named Frank Church. Church lead the committee that exposed the abuses committed by the FBI including the threats made on Martin Luther King's life. Given the current situation it woudld be great if we had him in the senate today.

[BlueJazz]

7. Idaho Heh? I think we should introduce more Wolves into the state..about..

..10 million of them..and very, very hungry :)

[mmonk]

8. Wow.

We just got our red wolf population up in my state through a co-operative effort. I didn't imagine there was another state somewhere trying to exterminate them.

[roguevalley]

9. F**king morons. We have tried to get rid of aerial wolf hunting here

for years but the pukes keep bringing it back. Fuckers. I hate them.

[janx]

23. Where are you? What state? n/t

[Generic Other]

10. Proof why Montana and Washington made those folks get their own state

Sheesh!

[BushOut06]

18. LOL - you know you're out there when Montana doesn't want you

;)

[400Years]

14. wolves improve deer and elk populations by culling out the sick and infirm

"Some hunters" my ass, who? the media always does the "some people say" schtik.

[susanna]

33. My first thought was...

"Sounds like some seriously crappy hunters." Seems like if these hunters are not able to kill an elk/deer, they blame it on the wolves who can.

[kwolf68]

15. No words can be used to describe

Just how obscene these people are.

The ecological non-sense of this groups comments notwithstanding I was interested in this quote: "Wolves treated better than humans?" by Mr. Gillett ... I want this idiot to show me any proposal in existence tht promotes the extermination of the entire population of any one state's humans.

[blindpig]

16. Fuck those cowboys and the prairie roaches they rode in on.

And just how much of their grazing land is BLM? That's my land too, buckaroos and the ESA is still the law of the land, at least until Pombo and CJ Roberts wreck it.

Better this:

http://www.gprc.org/Buffalo_Commons.html

[EvolveOrConvolve]

20. The ESA isn't applicable

because the wolves aren't listed as endangered except for near the Canadian border.

[janx]

17. The wolves that were introduced to Yellowstone some

years back have been making their way into Colorado. Colorado's so crowded now that I fully expect an outcry similar to this one soon.

If I remember correctly, one indication of their migration into Colorado was that one was found dead on a freeway.

[tn-guy]

21. Why should the western states get all the wolves?

I say, reintroduce the wolf to Central Park!!!

[janx]

25. There are enough of those there already.

;-)

[EvolveOrConvolve]

22. I can tell you that most Idahoans don't agree with this group

Most of Idahoans probably don't agree with many of us here at DU either, but there is a center point where I think most Idahoans are at.

The problem occurs when small ranchers who graze on their own land lose cattle to wolves, and have little recourse, either against the wolf or financially. The large corporate ranchers who suck off the federal teat (all the while complaining about "welfare queens") are the ones pushing for wolf extermination, simply because they don't give a shit about the land or wildlife. They care only about money. The small, family owned ranches don't use the gov't land, and complain less, because they live here, and understand the bigger picture. I agree that these small-timers need a way to deal with the issue. That's part of the reason the feds turned over management of the wolf program to our state Fish & Game Department.

I can almost guarantee that the extermination idea won't happen. I think there is a good chance that many wolves will be relocated, though.

[janx]

24. Excellent points. n/t

[smurfygirl]

26. Ignorance breeds fear of wolves

If Idahoians really knew how beneficial wolves can be they would take a stand against such actions.
It is the same ignorance and fear that keep them voting for the Republican party.
It would be wise for the democratic party to stand up in Idaho and educate people on the wolf issue. If people start hearing the truth they often open their mind to learning more of the truth instead of getting wrapped up in fear.
I am sorry for the wolves and the people of Idaho.

[janx]

27. Yes, but be sure to see post #22. n/t

[mitchtv]

28. Idaho, home of Mark Fuhrman

Lower than whale shit in the Marianas Trench. My favorite creature about to be swiftboated. How fucking infuriatingly sad. A curse on those who would hurt this magnificent animal.

[janx]

29. That's what a lot of people think of when they think about Idaho,

but there are also a lot of decent people there--not too far from where Fuhrman took his refuge.

The Idaho panhandle is a beautiful place indeed, not only for people like him.

[mitchtv]

30. yes, I know,

I worked with a Couer D'laine woman for a while. She was cool.
Idaho must be shamed before the rest of the West for even considering such treacherous pillaging of the nation's natural treasure. Preparations should begin for a tourist Boycott if it even begins to move foward. God forbid these motherf*ckers hire o goddamn shepheard with good dogs and the cattleman can hire cowboys to patrol their herds. No, they would rather sterilize the land and go monoculture meat, and expect no losses with no more investment than barbed wire fencing. whew ! it just poured out.

[janx]

32. That's OK.

It is a beautiful area, and we can only hope that the locals can continue to maintain control.

I have vistied Sandpoint and Hope and have affections there. Such gorgeous places!

[IDemo]

31. We in Idaho are used to this type of group

Anti-wolf/grizzly bear sentiment is nothing new here. Hell, anti-salmon feelings can even run high when our blessed Snake River dams are threatened. "Environmentalist" and "Leninist" are equally interchangeable terms here for many. Despite the fact that Idaho's greatest asset is its vast collection of natural landscapes, for many in the resource-extraction businesses, timber, mining, and ranching trump Mother Nature. Wolves are viewed in precisely the same light as household mice: a destructive pest to be dealt with as quickly as possible. Nevermind that they provide as integral a function to a healthy forest as does an occasional fire: what they do not kill, they make stronger.

It doesn't generally help that almost all of our state legislators come from the above farm/ranch/timber/mining areas. Molly Ivins would have a field day (or decade) here.