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JIM LEHRER: You told CNN last week that thousands of lives have been saved by this NSA surveillance program. Are we talking about American lives have been saved?
VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY: I can't go beyond that. I do believe that a great many lives have been saved because of what we've been able to do with this program.
JIM LEHRER: According to what the president has said, this only involves conversations between people who are believed to have al-Qaida contacts, international calls. You're saying that those calls by themselves have saved lives, thousands of lives?
VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY: I'm saying this program has produced intelligence for us that has been very valuable in the global war on terror both in terms of saving lives and breaking up plots directed at the United States. It has been a very useful source of intelligence for us and we need to continue the program.
JIM LEHRER: I just want to make sure I understand what you're saying. If we had not had this program, Americans would have been killed in terrorist attacks by al-Qaida or related organizations?
VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY: That's my belief.
JIM LEHRER: It's just a belief or is it--
VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY: No, and I think it's based on the facts, Jim, but I cannot talk about operational details. You're going to ask those questions, but we're not going to get into them. This has been one of the most important sources of intelligence we've had during the global war on terror. It's not an accident that we haven't been struck in the last four years. Some people think well it's just dumb luck. No, it's not. It's because the president has made some very good decisions, because we've had first-rate military and intelligence capabilities working on this problem, it's because we've aggressively gone after the terrorists wherever we could find them, and it's because we've had very good intelligence.
This program has been an important part of that intelligence capability. And as I said, the tragedy is, now that it has become the subject of so much discussion in the press and in the public arena that there is a real danger here that we will lose our capabilities in this area and will not have the kind of intelligence going forward that we've had in the past that has made it possible for us to successfully defend the nation against terrorist attacks. It doesn't mean there won't be future attacks. There may well be. We're working on it every day. But the fact is we have not been struck in over four years and that's because of a lot of good work by very able and capable people.
JIM LEHRER: And this NSA surveillance program?
VICE PRESIDENT DICK CHENEY: And this is part of it.