A question....Say Bill Clinton was at Bush 1's funeral......

[HardWorkingDem]

and Billy Graham got up and made comments about Bill Clinton's sexuality and acts with Monica Lewinsky. Then say JC Watts got up and started talking and made some comments about the way Clinton dealth with the crisis in Rwanda.

Would people think that is appropriate? Just curious.....

[Crazy Guggenheim]

1. No. It's not the same thing. What does it have to do the life of GWHB?

[wtmusic]

6. What does the war in Iraq have to do with CSK?

or surveillance, for that matter (or because she's an appendage to MLK, that's fair game)?

[Fridays Child]

12. Huh? An appendage?

What is that supposed to mean?

[wtmusic]

13. because MLK was wiretapped

it's OK to consider surveillance a relevant topic at his wife's funeral.

Whatever. :crazy:

[Fridays Child]

14. Oh, that explains why you referred to Coretta Scott King as an appendage.

:eyes:

[wtmusic]

15. Yes, it's called sarcasm

:eyes: :eyes:

[Fridays Child]

18. I see. Well, remember...

...the sarcasm tag is your friend. Now, I'm using sarcasm, too, but you probably knew that. :sarcasm:

[wtmusic]

19. No, I didn't know...

I had *no* idea. :sarcasm: ;-)

[Fridays Child]

20. Thanks for the smiley wink.

Backatcha. ;)

:hi:

[wtmusic]

22. anytime

(nice to end the day's DU experience on a good note)

g'night

:hi:

[Fridays Child]

17. delete

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. Poppy is dead!!? yea!!

oh darn, you were speaking hypothetically. :(

Disclaimer: Agent Mike - this is a joke, seriously.

On edit: if you are trying to make some lame argument about the celebration today, and how they shouldn't have brought up politics at the funeral of a woman who fought her whole life against wrongs perpetrated against minorities by people like the bastard who was sitting right on stage... you failed.

[JI7]

3. and W gets up and brings up how he talked about pussy with his dad

and how much he will miss it.

and someone can bring up Jennifer Fitzgerald.

[MrSlayer]

4. This is kind of funny.

This is a strange comparison to yesterday's events, if that is what you are attempting but I would actually laugh to see it happen. Yes, it would be wildly inappropriate.

[incapsulated]

5. Hmmm, I don't think so

It's different for a president. This was the wife of a political and civil rights activist, who was an activist herself. These are the things she cared about and worked for. It makes perfect sense to bring them up.

And they would have been brought up whether or not the Chimp and his dad where there. That is the most overlooked point, here.

[sasha031]

7. well if that happened

you would see the MSM claiming it was totally appropriate and how daddy bush would have been so pleased..

[Stephanie]

8. Were comments made today about anyone's sexuality?

Were comments made today about Coretta Scott King's response to Rwanda?

What are you talking about?

[question everything]

9. As someone commented on a nearby thread: what are you talking about?

Did someone make a comment about someone's personal life during the funeral of Coretta Scott King? I am guessing.

Otherwise, from where are you coming with such bizarre notions?

[fishwax]

10. That's hardly analagous, for a number of reasons

First, those don't have anything to do with ghwb, unlike when Lowery and Carter spoke about issues which CSK fought for.

Second, nobody attacked bush personally, but rather they were critical of policies which cause suffering for people worldwide. That's neither the same as speaking of clinton's personal life, nor of his handling of a specific situation.

Third, GHWB was, like all politicians, a partisan figure, and yet as president he represented America. He belonged to all of us (whether some of us wanted him or not). Coretta Scott King was an activist, not a politician or a head of state, and she did not, in the same sense, represent America--she represented people that were oppressed or ignored.

[John Q. Citizen]

11. Your analogy would only be valid if someone had made comments

at the Correta King funeral about bush giving head to Jeff Gannon every few nights at the White House for months and months. And then if another person talked about bush allowing the genocide in Darfour to continue unabated. The speakers at the King funeral decided not to bring those things up I guess.

And I'm glad they didn't. It just would not have been appropriate, IMHO.

[deadparrot]

16. If Bill Clinton was president at the time of GHWB's funeral,

and GHWB had devoted his life fighting against adultery or for the rights of Rwandans, and if Clinton was pursuing policies directly contradictory to what GHWB fought for, then yes.

[oasis]

21. Bill Clinton shines like a new penny everywhere he goes. Who would

make an ass out of themselves in an attempt to cut Bill down?

"Who" meaning a famous person, which would exclude anyone on this thread.

[Warren DeMontague]

23. Nice Post n' Run.

As it is, the woman's LIFE was political. If people chose to eulogize her by speaking out, she probably would have wanted it that way.

'Nuff said.

Thanks for stopping by.

[sandnsea]

24. Bill Clinton DID, today

I guess ya' missed it. But he made a passing jab at himself today, and went on to quote the Bible and of forgiveness and sin, or some such. And Bill has been raked over the coals about Rwanda, and discusses it openly himself. He admits his mistakes. And so when he dies, if a similar crisis is looming, I would expect someone from the religious or African American community to bring up Rwanda, as a reminder not to let it happen again. That's what happens with honesty, you learn from your mistakes and can talk about them in the future. Bill would want somebody to bring up Rwanda at his funeral, if it could save lives. That's the difference between Democrats and Republicans, or maybe plain folks and upper crust, don't know. Real words and real policies affect real people, it isn't just theatrical grandstanding.

[Bluebear]

25. So you think Mrs. King should have addressed Rwanda more?

I don't get this at all, especially the sexuality part. :shrug:

[Tactical Progressive]

26. I partially agree

It wasn't really the appropriate time to bash Bush.

And to the extent that similarities between Vietnam and Iraq deserved mention, and I think they did in the context of MLK's courageous opposition to the Vietnam War, it shouldn't have been so clumsily done as a snarky aside about 'weapons of mass destruction'. In the context of this funeral they could have easily been made with references to war and conflict as a last resort or some such. That would have been much more in keeping with MLK's legacy.

But your analogy is faulty on so many levels. Bill Clinton in your analogy isn't a President in power executing policies directly contradictory to the deceased's ideology. And nobody made remarks denigrating Bush's personal life.

If Clinton were in office and ignoring Rwanda at Coretta Scott King's funeral I might expect a remark like "opposing injustice anywhere we have the power to resist it". That would have been appropriate for both a eulogy and for a statement conveying enough meaning for anyone actually listening.

[hfojvt]

28. I partially agree with you

your 2nd half is right on, but it is always an appropriate time to bash Bush's policies. In fact, I am making that a request in my will, for half of my funeral to be devoted to bashing evil GOP bastids, because that is what half of my life was devoted to.

[d_b]

27. Billy Graham?

Pat Robertson is more like it.

And no. That would not be appropriate.

[Moderator]

29. locking

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