Face it folks, Rove stole the funeral and ate your lunch

[dave29]

And he did it by turning the media against two devoutly religious men, including a former President who works tirelessly for human rights. Bill Clinton, being wise to all things political, made himself and his wife untouchable; but the righteous indignation of men like Jimmy Carter and the good Reverend Lowery are, unfortunately, easy targets for the boy genius, who preys on the soft bigotry and hard partisanship pervasive in our media and our country.

Bush now gets to take the high road... having, once again, had his surrogates do his dirty work. He will appear before the cameras and at some point soon say he "appreciates freedom of speech". The media will be aglow with adulation for his ability to forgive and forget, and imply he should never have to face his critics again, especially African Americans.

When will our team figure out that theirs has absolutely zero scruples? Bush was not boxed in to attending the funeral. Rove saw a tremendous political opportunity to change the story... no matter that it was the funeral of Coretta Scott King. He can and will find a way to play the race card, the gay card, the cultural card of the day when given any opportunity, exploiting whomever he has to in order to seize the message.

I give you Max Cleland.
John Kerry.
Gay Marriage.
Immigration Reform.

Being decent people, it's sometimes hard to realize the answer to the question "at long last sir, have you no decency" is a resounding NO. It is long past the time we came to that conclusion.

It doesn't matter that we are right, it doesn't matter how outraged we get about this... unless you can overnight change the way people think (and so many still don't understand that funerals can actually be non-morbid events), we've lost this debate. So, rather than provide them with the echo chamber they desire, we should refocus our energy on the stories of the day that are penetrating through the cultural muck:

1) Domestic Wiretapping
2) Jack Abramoff/Tom Delay/Culture of Crony Corruption
3) Valerie Plame

I'm tired of them stealing things from me, including elections and funerals. We need the congress in '06.

We have work to do.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Our work starts with this:

Don't believe the media. This is the best tool the rwingers have, because so many have always relied on the news media to be fair. I've already convinced some folks that they need to look to the internet for a balanced view of the news.

BTW, I don't think Rove won. He made the media make it seem that way-but the celebration of the Truth by those at the funeral was a breath of fresh air, and a reminder that there are many of us out there, and that we are mighty because we are right!

[dave29]

2. The funeral was beautiful

but unfortunately, I disagree on Rove... at least as far as the media megaphone.

[Blue_In_AK]

3. Rove is a pig ... that is all. n/t

[LaurenG]

4. I think you are wrong

The spin machine wants you to think the public believes this or that. The bottom line and what makes this so aggravating is that the public doesn't trust bush. It's all rovian bs - we've been hijacked every one of us.

[dave29]

5. Well, living in the South

I can tell you that a lot of people buy the BS. And there are a lot of cultural issues that Rove knows how to play perfectly to.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

12. May depend on where you live in the South

My boss has asked me about political information to talk with others about-he has said Bush needs to be tarred and feathered. A co-worker gave me "Loose Change" to watch, and listens to AAR here in the office when he comes in for a break (like he has a choice-I own the radio!). I've talked to clerks who disagree with Bush totally. This is northwest Arkansas, which is the most conservative part of the state.

[im10ashus]

28. I have a life-partner from the South.

I know my in-laws and friends from the South are not buying the BS. Maybe you shouldn't listen to THEIR BS. Or better yet, call them out on their bigotry and hate, because that's exactly what Rove is about. There will come a time, in the not too distant future, where American's are going to get tired of the divisiveness that is this administration. Mark my words.

[Carni]

35. Well they worship bushit anyway so Who TF cares what they think?

I frankly could give a rat's ass what they think... the funeral was for the mourners and the family and friends of the Kings- it wasn't for Goober or Gomer Pyle down in the valley who "hate hearing them liberals" and it sure as hell wasn't for the bush family.

What you are suggesting?

That they should all have been good little girl's and boys and kept their mouths shut for votes because they might *offend* the bush voters?

THAT as far as I am concerned would be far more of a tasteless political manipulation than what these stupid repukes are accusing the speakers of doing.

They spoke their minds, they spoke their conscience...and it's about God damn time someone did that in this country--what possible objection would Mrs King herself have had to speaking THE TRUTH?

It's a good thing the King's didn't just get along like what you are suggesting Democrat's should do.

[FreedomAngel82]

15. Bingo

That's their job. Why else does no liberal or just a plain democrat have a show on their own? Why else did they can Ron Reagan? It's nothing more than manipulation.

[ShortnFiery]

21. Yes and Fox News just presents only "pre-screened" RW audiences ...

FOX Cable news just paraded out Juan Williams claiming that Carter's remarks were NOT ok, while Lowery's were acceptable - why? On the basis that Lowery worked exclusively in the Civil Rights Venue. :wtf:

African American Journalists like Juan Williams are as dangerous to the Civil Rights Movement as are the DLCer's are to the "for the people first" moderate and liberal Democrats. It was astounding when they panned the "sea of white" Caucasoid clones all spewing hatred for Jimmy Carter. Knowing how devoutly religious Carter is, how dare anyone say that he doesn't have a right to speak about the racial prejudices of this Country's recent past, i.e., not to mention the STRONG under the surface messages conveyed by FAUX news with Juan Williams dutifully playing the role of "Uncle Tom."

We must flush out those who enable Rove & Co. to divide and concur the rights of both people of color AND the working poor.

I call this highly orchestrated obfuscation of important issues "The Tweety Strategy." No one can utterly confuse the facts as good as Herr Chris Mathews. If we are to successfully counter the Corporate media, we must continually purge-out of our ranks the *enablers* and call-out these mealy mouth bastards on their LIES and unadulterated bull shit spin.

[Swamp Rat]

6. Don't get mad; get even.

:D

[dave29]

13. I plan on it

:)

[Carni]

38. OMG regarding your graphic

LMAO- That was unexpected! Excellent job lol

[cantstandbush]

41. There is nothing to get even about. The funeral messages stand on their

own and I don't think any of the speakers will apologize for telling the truth that needs to heard.
Screw the MSM!!!

[Swamp Rat]

42. Yes there is.

If you were from New Orleans you would feel differently.

[seabeyond]

7. rove's simple w on a car,... scott kings simple picture one face

on our car. bloggers, aar, the blacks speak out. their funeral was jsut what they wanted. it is not roves place to steal the funeral and trash it. we must honor these people. the reverand. carter, angelo mmmmmm (her name, help me, she is so beautifukl and smart) take the funeral back, damnit


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[The Backlash Cometh]

8. Cowering now only makes it worse. You have to expose their

tactics. Next time they shouldn't be invited.

[Spazito]

9. I believe this is going to backfire for Rove as has everything he

has done. It is showing their racist tendencies to still OWN black people and dictate what is 'appropriate' behavior.

[gilpo]

26. What of Rove's has backfired?

He is despicable, evil, contemptible, nasty, deranged, misguided. But what makes him so dangerous is that he is VERY GOOD at what he does. I have to grudgingly concede that we might have been played on this one.

[Spazito]

33. Ummm, the Plame outing, for one

check out how many investigations and scandals the bush cabal is currently undergoing and tell me again how successful Rove has been. He must have had his hand in all the events that are now being investigated because he is all-powerful, right?

[underpants]

10. Eh, it's hard to give someone credit when it is that easy

It doesn't take much talent to just be able to pick up a phone and say "cover for us" now does it?

I don't think that anyone who saw it or who sees it buys this crap anyway. 56% or there abouts see the war a BS now and that is in the face of many people thinking you can't support the troops and oppose the war (again just a phone call away). I read a great article last week about how the media is so out of touch with the mainstream and not in a liberal way-they are in the WH's back pocket so bad that they have no idea what is going on outside their little bubble.

Rove isn't a genius he just doesn't have the civility or cooth to know that you can't masterbate in public. He is a lower lifeform and he takes advantage of normal expectations to cheat his way into WINS...short lived drastically disasterous "wins".

[Cosmocat]

31. RIGHT ...

He isn't a "genius" ... He just is such a lowlife that he has NO problem playing outside the boundaries ... He is like the 22 year old who goes after vulnerable 15 year old girls ... It is easy fishing, but no one does it because there are clear social boundaries about it ... That doesn't make the 22 year old a "player" ... It means he is puke ...

Same thing with Rove ... He takes advantage of the rules of "fair play" that exist in an open political system ... Yeah, people have gotten dirty for a LONG time ... BUT, he just goes where even the most ruthless of political operatives would not have allowed themselves to go ...

Immoral ... THAT is what this puke is ...

[underpants]

34. One of the main excuses on this is "That's not what we meant"

on the Authorization to Use Military Force. Same MO as they used on the Iraq War vote (not that that gets anyone off the hook for voting on it) and on UN Resolution 1441 ("No automaticity" was they explanation for an extrememly vague piece of literature).

As soon as they got it passed (by lying) they ran out, declared VICTORY, and then told everyone what THEY thought it meant. Anyone who dared raise their voice (none did around 9/11) hated America (including UN members which makes no sense but that never stopped them).

[FreedomAngel82]

11. He's just a whiny baby

[CornField]

14. ROTFLMAO!

I realize your intentions, but Rove, Bush, et al can no more steal an inspirational funeral service from me than they can steal Martin Luther and Coretta Scott King from me. Let them spin... let them flip... let them eat cake... Frankly, I don't give a damn what they do because those who took the time to actually tune in saw the very same service I did.

The only people who bring disgrace to Coretta Scott King are the ones who overlook the fact that her own video message was more anti-Bush administration policies than anything else stated at the funeral.

[dave29]

19. well, they at least stole your country

lets take it back :)

[Carni]

39. They didn't steal the country

A lazy, spoiled, greedy public handed it to them.

[gatorboy]

16. I'd have to disagree.

Because the quote from one news article says it all:

"She extended Martin's message against poverty, racism and war. She deplored the terror inflicted by our smart bombs on missions way afar. We know now that there were no weapons of mass destruction over there," Lowery said.

The mostly black crowd applauded, then rose to its feet and cheered in a two-minute-long standing ovation.
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The only people that are in an uproar over this are the same bigoted group that chastised what King stoof for in the first place. They arn't fooling anyone other than themselves.

[deesy58]

17. When will our team figure out that theirs has absolutely zero scruples?

We've had the evidence since Watergate and the spying on John Lennon, MLK and others. We saw the "dirty tricks" in every presidential campaign and every important congressional race. Both Edmund Muskie and Ross Perot were victims, and Perot wasn't even a Democrat. Democrats will never regain power until they grasp the real nature of the GOP. That means the assembly of a media machine that can match the propaganda output of Carl Rove with his Fox News and MSNBC media outlets.

[Cocoa]

18. Rove didn't steal shit

the RW whores are on the defensive about this.

[0007]

25. The only thing Rove knows how to play perfectly is a dick.

[11 Bravo]

20. I've got three words for Rover.

Lee. Atwater. Karma.

[saracat]

22. I agree we have work to do but thatfuneral scored big for us. We should

Apologize for NOTHING. Carter, Clinton and Kennedy and Conyers looked GREAT, and stood for something. When we shut our mouths is when we look bad! Bush looked bad and they look like the chills they are for criticizing it. The Dems who criticised Reagans funeral looked bad too. This is going to hurt the GOP big time and I hope we have the guts to tough tit out and not let the DLC mentality cause us to whimp out. We need NOT to listen to Tom Vilsak!

[Beetwasher]

23. Why? Because They're WHINING And Gnashing Their Teeth????

What exactly did they win? What do they gain? None of those people are running for election. There's no win here. They just look like whiny, pathetic pansies.

[GreenPartyVoter]

24. Sorry, I don't think Rove stole the funeral. I think it showed **co up

for the louts that they really are.

They can spin it all they want, but the words are already out there and hearts everywhere were impassioned by what was said at the funeral.

[Justice Is Comin]

27. Eggs actly

It was like chum to sharks for the African Americans. If there was 2% of Blacks that still supported him, it's zero now.

And a Nobel peace prize winner is not relegated to media spin to most Americans, no matter how they would like to make it appear. Carter just converted some more votes for November. Bush wanted to crawl inside Pickle's dress.

And Clinton....well, what do you need to say.

[Dawgs]

29. Wrong...

The Democrats are polling higher than Republicans, Bush's poll numbers are in the shitter, and the turnout for the upcoming election should be two Democratic(Anti-Bush) voters for every one Republcan voter.

Rove ain't winning shit!!

[meisje]

40. Show me those polls???

[EST]

30. Do not agree.

The only thing the bastards have done is call more attention than ever to the dirt and ugliness endemic to the empire. It'll take a few days to settle out but I'm sure the backlash will puke all over the misadministration.

[Blue Belle]

32. Clinton wasn't made untouchable with his speech...

Limbaugh has been going off on his speech this morning:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_020706/content/coretta_scott_king_funeral_3.guest.html

<SNIP> Limbaugh: I'm looking at something I haven't seen in I don't know how long. Bill and Hillary are at the pulpit side by side, and she is looking so lovingly and respectfully at him that I don't believe it. The last time I saw them side by side was in that picture when they were on the beach dancing to no music two weeks before the Monica Lewinsky story broke ... Let's bring up the president -- I'm going to regret this; I know I'm going to regret this -- the first black president at the Coretta Scott King funeral.

Clinton: President Bush 41 complained that he was at a disadvantage because he was an Episcopalian. Then he came up here and zings old Laura like he did. I thought, "That ain't bad for one of the 'frozen chosen.'"

Limbaugh: Frozen chosen?

Clinton: We --

Limbaugh: Maybe it's a sperm bank. That's a sperm bank term!

Clinton: -- doing good together and --

Limbaugh: Frozen chosen?

Clinton: Let me say --

Limbaugh: Clinton used to be a greeter in a sperm bank, I know that.

Clinton: -- I don't want us to forget that there's a woman in there, not a symbol. Not a symbol, a real woman who lived and breathed and got angry and got hurt, and had dreams and disappointments --

Limbaugh: I hate to say this, folks, but that's what he said about the mummy.

Clinton: -- and I don't want us to forget that. You know what?

Limbaugh: He said that about the mummy!

There's more... if you want to read it. But once again, Limbaugh proves what a classless bastard he is...

[dave29]

36. Limbaugh will touch anything

especially the Clenis, when given the chance.

[Catherine Vincent]

37. Rove didn't do Jack!