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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:39 PM
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Lowery got 23-sec ovation on WMD remarks - and CNN splices it out
Edited on Wed Feb-08-06 11:09 PM by StefanX
CNN just took one of the most important speeches in the last 6 years and grossly distorted it by seamlessly splicing out the 23-second standing ovation that interrupted it:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200602080008

For many of us the high point of the funeral was the standing ovation Lowery got when he said:

"We know now there were no weapons of mass destruction over there {standing ovation}... but Coretta kew and we know that there are weapons of misdirection right down here. Millions without health insurance. Poverty aounds. For war billions more but no more for the poor."

You can view the clip and the (complete) standing ovation here:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/02/07.html#a7056
http://www.canofun.com/cof/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=16326

Why was this part of the eulogy so important? Not just what Lowery was saying about WMDs -- many people have said that before. And not just because he was the first person who managed to say it to Bush's face -- although that was pretty satisfying too.

The reason this part of Lowery's speech was so moving was because the audience reaction showed us that we are not alone. This is the kind of proof we hardly ever get to see -- it shows that people who are pissed off about Bush's WMD lies are a strong, brave and powerful majority.

Which is exactly why CNN had to edit out that standing ovation. The neocons are weak and they're a tiny minority of this country -- but with their Mighty Wurlitzer they've been managing to keep a lid on the fact that the rest of us are strong. We are the overwhelming majority. The people who support Bush are a tiny, whiny minority.

The CSK funeral is the first time in 6 years anyone has stood up to Bush and told him the truth to his face. That's why the right wing is going crazy over this funeral, and that's why CNN is censoring it, and trying to get us to go along with their attempts to dictate what is appropriate "funeral etiquette" for a deceased political figure.

Right after the censored clip, Blitzer asks whether the viewers think that Lowery's remarks were "appropriate". Well, for the majority of the people in the room, and the majority of the viewers out here in TV land, it damn well was one of the most "appropriate" things they've heard in a long time. When you see a standing ovation erupt while you're getting all tingly from the 'rush' you yourself are feeling -- that would be a major turning point in the history of this country. Watch the full clip at one of the links above -- you might get chills down your spine or tears in your eyes, right when everyone starts jumping out of their seats. It's one of the most powerful public events in recent memory and anyone who watches that clip is a part of it.

And CNN had to edit it out. The first time anyone spoke the truth to Bush, when thousands of people on-camera and millions of people watching on TV felt a surge of hope and solidarity... and CNN edits it out, seamlessly splicing the whole thing away so you'd never even know it happened. "Gee, I felt kinda excited when Lowery said that -- but nobody in the audience got all excited like I did, I guess I'm just one of those 'whackjobs' Chris Matthews talk about who don't support Bush." (MSNBC's Tweety conveniently ignores the fact that the country is about 60-40 against Bush right now. That's a lot of "whackjobs".)

This is like how the media distorted the "Dean scream" using a directional mic to exaggerate how loud it was in that crowded room.

It's like the laugh tracks we've sat through for years on tired sitcoms, where the actors deliver some stale joke and then you hear a non-existent studio audience erupting in uncontrollable laughter -- again making you feel isolated and alone at some primal level, because you're out-of-synch with the group, with the tribe.

It's in the same tradition as Leni Riefenstahl's "Triumph of the Will" -- a propaganda piece where camera tricks were used to make it look like Hitler was surrounded by adoring crowds at the Nuremberg rally.

All lies, all smoke and mirrors, all psyops -- all designed to divide us and make each of us feel alone and freakish and out-of-touch with "normal" people.

The reality is, we are strong and we are normal and we are in the majority -- and the neocons are a tiny conspiracy of misfits and freaks who spend most of their waking hours trying to figure out ways to cheat the media (and, by the looks of it, the voting system as well).

In my opinion, what CNN did was an act of treason. They're not a news station -- they're a psyops front for the tiny conspiracy of people who earn their living by destroying our military and our Constitution and our CIA and our Congress and our judiciary and our schools and our healthcare system.

This is of the most important issues in the history of this country: the destruction of our military and our national security via the lies over WMDs -- and the spontaneous audience reaction when Lowery "spoke truth to power" is one of the most important events in the last six years. (Kind of like all those people who threw eggs at Bush's limo at the 2001 inauguration -- another great moment in television which we never get to see, along with crying Iraq widow(er)s and maimed soldiers who would put a human face on this monumental clusterfuck of a misbegotten war.)

CNN took the biggest moment of spontaneous solidarity from the last 6 years and doctored the reality in order to make each of us feel isolated and weak -- when in reality we are united and strong.

CNN hates America. Which is why I will never watch CNN or support any person or corporation who supports CNN. CNN is an enemy of The People.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:42 PM
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1. well said - k&r
Edited on Wed Feb-08-06 10:42 PM by bpilgrim
k&r

peace
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:43 PM
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2. but-but-but It's the *LIBRUL* media. Evrywon noes that
:freak: :silly: :crazy: :shrug:
They woodent edit it out if it wuz rilly their.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:48 PM
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3. Great post!! Recommended! May I use your post on my
veteran's board? They are always complaining about "the liberal media."

This just might cause a few heads to explode...
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:55 PM
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5. Thanks!
Quote as much as you like!

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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:50 PM
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4. We have to STOP looking at the media, as it is, as a trustworthy
source. period. I'm not saying that everyone shouldn't be fighting to change things such as the Telecommunication Laws or ensure that media doesn't continue to take over more and more outlets. But let's be realistic. The person that controls the (press) has the power. CNN has decided that being infotainment and having access to right-wingers and the White House is worth more than covering issues that concern a broader range of people. Or maybe people that care about government issues rather than who happens to be missing today. I read last night, can't remember where, that the news didn't even cover much of the Elec Surveillance hearing-maybe they thought people would be bored by it, who knows? But the point is, it's INFOTAINMENT, it is NOT NEWS and it's only frustrating to expect it, in the form it is now, to be more.

In my opinion, you have to change your thinking OUT OF THE BOX. Start thinking about how we all use the internet and are able to get information immediately how we want. And there are people on this board who are experiencing the news we want to hear-what has to happen is for us to educate ourselves on how to use those tools and become our own media.

I quit, for the most part, watching CNN a couple of weeks ago. I can't remember exactly what it was that made me feel like I had eaten something rotten, probably more than one interview, but one in particular where Blitzer was interviewing the author of "Rogue State" and he kept interjecting his own feelings into his questions, which were clearly AGAINST the author. I don't want a friggin anchor to show his or her own feelings UNLESS they are clearly marked as being the Opinion Hour. I don't think it is too much to want news to be properly labeled, like food is. It used to be.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:01 PM
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6. we have to 'package' the news ourselves
like you do & by making our own summaries of the news, how we see it... SHAPE IT & then distribute it, via the WWW.

as more tune-out from the boob-tube & tune-into the INTERNETs our power grows exponentially =)

thanks for sharing :toast:

peace
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mdelaguna2000 Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:08 AM
Response to Reply #4
16. No - can't bury your head in the sand
If we don't look at them, we can't bear witness to their atrocious fostering of propaganda. While it's hard, you can't turn your back on these snakes. How else can we understand the sheeple who don't self inform and frame their world view from the so-called free press? Information (on them and what they're up to) is power.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:15 AM
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21. challenge them on their "mass distraction"
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #16
22. Not burying head in sand-there are sites, such as Media Matters
that document the atrocities continually. And if one reads, as we all do here, one already knows the talking points that are being foisted out through various forms of media. It's a fallacy to say that someone can't know what crap is being shoveled out without watching it.

Another thing about television in particular. It isn't information on demand, in the same way that articles in the newspaper, on the internet, in magazines or on message boards or blogs is. So, if I want to see whether the news covers a particular (to me) newsworthy event, I have to sit through perhaps hours of infotainment that most likely is going to be irrelevant to my life.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 02:25 PM
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30. We don't trust the media, it's the other 90% that do who need to be..
reached. The apathy in our country is so think you can cut it with a knife, unfortunately THIS is where a vast majority of Americans get their news and what they base their opinions on. Until that changes, this will remain an ignorant, uninformed populace.
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europegirl4jfk Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:37 PM
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7. Once the Bush regime removed America will need a new press
All these liars and opportunists in the media have to go down with Bush, as these Hitler propagandists did at the end of WWII. I still watch CNNi from time to time. As they are broadcasting to the world and not only America they don't exaggerate the propaganda. But the snippets I see there from CNN USA are just awful and in a stark contrast to CNNi. A few days ago "Insight" on CNNi spent the whole 30 min. on the hearings on Monday and had a very critical analyst as a guest who stated that Bush broke the law. And what was Anderson Cooper talking endlessly about the same night on CNN US? The murdered woman and baby in Massachusetts and the husband who fled to England. This is so unbelievable! I won't say that our press here in Europe is perfect (far from it!) but this ignorance of important stuff in favor to gossip and nothing than gossip wouldn't have happened on French, German or English TV.
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 12:03 AM
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8. watching what the press
has done since shrub had been in office *really* scares me.

:scared: :scared:
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 12:08 AM
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9. Great post ~ Rev. Lowry's speech will go down in history
no matter what CNN does. It was played all over the radio today ~ it is available online. CNN may TRY to censure it, and they could have in the past, but it will be heard by millions of people in spite of them.

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RT_Fanatic Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 07:37 AM
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10. Listened to a bit of an interview
on Countdown last evening. Even KO seemed to want to suggest to Lowery that his remarks were inappropriate, but the good reverend did not back down one little bit. I was proud to see it.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 07:44 AM
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12. Interview with Rev. Joseph Lowery is at Crooks and Liars.
MSNBC's "Countdown" edited the applause, too.

But they put in a blur to indicate the editing.

CNN just gave the impression that there was no editing when it shortened the applause.

The video clip is here.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 02:36 PM
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31. I didn't think he was suggesting that
Rather, I thought he was bringing up some of the RW spin that had been made to give Lowery an opportunity to address it. Seemed like Lowery shot it down with ease and KO wasn't perturbed by that.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 07:40 AM
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11. You mean the White House splices it out! CNN isn't that smart
to do something on their own.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 07:50 AM
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13. They don't hate america, they hate truth.
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Call me Deacon Blues Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 07:51 AM
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14. We MUST change the media if we are to rescue this country
They will never change on their own. We must either change them with economic pressure (boycotts) or "people power" (imagine 100,000 people camped out on the doorstep of CNN). I don't watch ANY of the news networks any more -- I have little tolerance for lies. Democratic Underground or AmericaBlog or Daily Kos or Atrios or FireDogLake as a nightly nationwide newscast -- that's what I'd like to see. The Truth, for once.


Impeach the Media!
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 07:52 AM
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15. All links seem to be corrupted now.
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:09 AM
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17. Great point
I hadn't thought about it in that context.
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Nomen Tuum Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:09 AM
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18. CNN LIES ANY LIE for the Nazi Party
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 08:10 AM by Nomen Tuum
Göebbels never had such suckups working for him.
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mdelaguna2000 Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:10 AM
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19. sounds like a great LTEE - you gonna write one? (or three)
This is incredibly important - and a simple, yet grotesquely disgusting illustration of the misrepresentation of reality that happens at various scales all the time.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:14 AM
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20. Let them know we're on to them!!
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form6a.html?2

They have proven the charge against them that they deal in "mass distraction" by editing out that ovation.
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Donovan61 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:29 AM
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23. Brit Hume and the clowns at Faux
didn't cut out the applause but claimed that the reaction really wasn't all that spectacular at the funeral, that it was just distorted by the TV coverage. Then they went on to talk about whether it was bad manners. They're trying to do the same thing they did with Sen. Wellstone's funeral but I don't think it is going to work this time. Everybody knows what CSK stood for and no amount of right wing spin will be able to undo that. And one more thing, the latest meme from that crowd is that Jimmy Carter is worse as an ex-president than he ever was as president. They hate it when he tells the truth.
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:29 AM
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24. What would Martin have done?
Somewhere on one of those shows yesterday the Rev. Lowery was asked if he thought that MLK or Coretta would have chosen that occasion - eulogy at a funeral - to bring up the things that the right has gone ballistic about. He basically did an 'Al Gonzales' and avoided answering, but I won't...Martin Luther King would have not only taken the opportunity to blister the man most responsible for the current crap facing our country, he probably would have turned around and pointed at the bastard. Coretta, on the other hand, probably wouldn't have...perhaps that she wouldn't have been as confrontational, but more likely because she, and the entire King Center folks, rely on the Fed - through the National Parks Service - to keep the Center afloat and we all know what happens to folks that piss off geedubya and that wife of his. It's sad, but it's the reality, once you start to take the money it's hard to let go. If they had independent sources - and they probably could have developed them along the way - then having to be polite to this bunch of greedy bastards would never have been necessary.

Rev. Lowery and Jimmy Carter don't owe them a damn thing...now Bill Clinton has his hand so far into the cookie jar that he'll never again take pot shots at them...like another son to GHWB, good God, have you no shame 'Willie'?
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:46 AM
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25. Well said, CNN has gone to the Right side
THe far right, they only look Centrest when compared with Faux News.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:54 AM
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27. You mean, "the Dark Side," don't you? nt
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:48 AM
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26. Thanks for this excellent and informative post. nt
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:23 AM
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28. A curious radio spot
I was shocked when their nauseous little hourly radio blurb, unfortunately a feature of our local liberal station, used a long clip from Clinton's remarks with only a brief sum up of W's. Was it that pathetic? in any event it was extremely uncharacteristic of the usual CNN slant, but then again they did not mention Lowery at all.

By the way, is it appropriate for CNN to ignore the significance of Bush's lying about WMDs, intentions to go to war regardless and numerous other memos and discoveries which confirm their respectable Pretzeldent is a war criminal of the first order and a widowmaker par excellence?

Miserable toads and sycophantic parasites.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 01:12 PM
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29. I boycott CNN n.t
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PHXG Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 04:10 PM
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32. What difference
does this point make? Sure I agree with it, but the response was the same, our side looks like partisan hacks at the funeral of a respected civil rights leader. So what if we did it at Paul Wellstone's funeral, he was a politco, but championing this does nothing but add fuel to the right wing fire that we are grasping at straws attempting to slow our slide from leadership.

Civility and respect will gain many points with middle america that is required to win. Unless we can control the "loose cannons" and direct the message with a plan of our officials, I fully expect 2008 to be a rout.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #32
40. Nice of you to join up and scold all of us.
I hardly think you are a "we", and I KNOW you aren't on "our" side.

The you and your fellow repukes will NEVER like a single thing WE do, no matter how far up their butt LIEbeman and Zellout have their respective heads.

I do know one thing - WE have long ago stopped worring about what YOU and your fellow repukes think about US.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:05 AM
Response to Reply #32
41. Well THAT was subtle.
:rofl: Why are you folks so nervous over this funeral?
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 04:19 PM
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33.  At the very end of the clip ...someone rolls out a harp
and puts it right behind bu$h. Hmmmm.... "intervention" also called in Will Pitts last thread, "sitting on the sinners bench." http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x361601






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youngturk kc Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 05:42 PM
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34. Liberals need a way to get by the conservative corporate media
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 06:13 PM
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35. UPDATE: Fox edits out applause; Kondracke comments on "lack of applause"!
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 06:21 PM by StefanX
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2006_02_05_atrios_archive.html#113951839974398291

Fox follows CNN's lead, edits out applause and then... Kondracke comments on the lack of applause!

Are we all clear about what is going on here? Fox and MSNBC and CNN have declared war on truth and on the American people.

Lowery's speech was the first time in the last 6 years that the public saw someone really "give it" to George Bush -- although all Lowery did was "speak the truth to power", he said what everyone knows to be true. And thousands of people burst into a spontaneous, sustained standing ovation -- and millions more who saw the video on C-SPAN via Crooks and Liars felt a surge of hope and solidarity with their fellow Americans. This was a historic moment.

And CNN and Fox, to show that they are good footsoldiers for their neocon criminal masters, edited the whole thing away like it never happened. One of the most important media moments in American history over the last 6 years and the Mighty Wurlitzer edited it out faster than you could say "1984".

And now, commentators like Kondracke are trying to comment on the "lack" of applause -- clearly an attempt to isolate us. This is psyops pure and simple. They know that we can't get broad support to fix things if they manage to keep a significant chunk of the population in the dark.

I think it should be clear to everyone what's going on here now. I think it should be clear who our enemies are and what their tactics are.

Are you sure it's a good idea to keep paying the monthly cable bill? Are you sure it's a good idea for us to keep raising millions of dollars for candidates so they can turn around and hand it to our enemies to beg for air time? (Remember, if the ads are REALLY good, the media simply refuses to run them. But they're happy to take our billions to run our semi-effective and outright useless ads.)

When are we finally going to turn our backs on these traitors in our media and replace them with media that tells the truth?

Here's a radical but simple proposal that could turn everything upside down in this country: If we put our money into blank CDs and DVDs and used bittorrent instead of network/cable as our distribution network and got our content from the "best of" the various websites (using the amazing collaborative filtering and distributed moderation capabilities developed over the last few years on websites like DU and KOS which have rating systems), we could destroy the networks in a matter of months. (Perfect -- that's all the time we have left -- because the choice in this fall's elections is clear: either impeachment or dictatorship, it's one or the other.)

We have the content, we have the CD burners, DVD burners and printers, we have the short-range UHF and VHF and AM and FM transmitters. We need to use them now to go "the last mile" and let our friends and neighbors in on the truth. We're already uploading and voting on the best audio/video/text content, we already have the distribution technology (bittorrent -- specifically utorrent and peerguardian) in place -- all we need to do now is move that content onto DVDs, CDs and paper and drop it off around town. You know where: bus and train stations, laundromats, campuses, cafeterias, locker rooms, etc. You know the joy that everyone feels when they're first exposed to real grassroots media for the first time instead of our daily deadly diet of corporate lies. Our nation is starving for news and being slowly poisoned by the mediawhore mind manipulators.

It is time for us to build our own sneakernet samizdat. "Samizdat" means "self-published" in Russian. This was a media underground created by thousands of people in the Soviet Union. They didn't even have xeroxes there because they were banned -- so people would use CARBON PAPER and typewriters to painstakingly type out the news and circulate in underground. Now all we have to do is use the "sneakernet" -- ie, get out of the chair and pop a blank CD or DVD into the burner or some blank paper into the printer -- and then give that CD or DVD or printout to someone that doesn't have a computer. If the Russians were able to do it with carbon paper, just think what we can do with our printers and 700-megabyte CDs and 4.7-gigabyte DVDs.

You all know "the real deal" because you hang out on DU. All eighty thousand of you. Are you ready to turn that 80 thousand into 250 million?

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Blutodog Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 07:01 PM
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36. Fascist press.
The MSM is anything but mainstream anymore. It's just Fox lite news now. The media has been turned into an arm of the Bu$h state. How this happened was simple it's called $$ and fear. The NSA , CIA, FBI has been watching journalists and the owners of the media and they have so much dirt on these people that they have to do what the admin. says or else.
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drduffy Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 07:04 PM
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37. this whole mess can only end in revolution unless
the dems get balls, win big in 06 and take control from the jacobins. But I'm thinkin the end is nigh. And the camps are being built as you all (and me) bitch and fritter our time on line.

It ain't any kind of game any more. And now all that has been written here or is archived here is being data-mined as we play.

Do not ask for whom the bell tolls.....
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:52 PM
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38. CNN is a diseased whore
a syphilitic lesion on the first amendment.
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:28 AM
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39. That Was A Slick Editing Job--They Controlled the Audio Brilliantly n/t
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