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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:48 PM
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The PNAC plan continues
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:51 PM
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1. Shooting out satellites isn't all PNAC. It is a bloodless way to
stop some aggressor. UN should have the right to authorize.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 10:55 PM
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2. Yeah well whatever.
The PNAC Cabal intends to build offense space weapons to destroy communications and GPS satellites belonging to other nations (e.g. China) as part of their High Frontiers sub-plot of the their plan for world domination. This has nothing to do with defending against other aggressors, it has to do with knocking down any other nation that dares to resist us.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:05 PM
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4. not just nations... corporations who don't play
by PNAC rules too.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:07 PM
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5. Don't let them claim it as their idea. They already have co-opted
"democracy" and tried to make it theirs - despite having put off democracy in the mid east in the early 1980s.

Oh - yes - they also claimed having run Soviet Union into the ground - when in fact they disregarded CIA information that said Soviet were ready to roll over in the late 1970s and extended the cold war another ten years.

Now - you will give them the concept of knocking each other's satellites in space. I tell you - they did not invent shooting down satellites. All neocons do is create myths about themselves - as the day is long.

Sure they may want world dominance and the like. Has nothing to do with the technology. Or the concept of shooting satellites out. UN could use that too to stop aggressors.

Pare down the little fuckers to what they are and stop giving them credit for all the ideas that fall within their grand myths. They just "re-order". They are neither the scientists or the dreamers or the leaders or the implementors. They are simply throwing dark powerder on a fire and saying "I'm great".



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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:04 PM
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3. yep, here are the relevant parts...
From
http://www.gvtc.com/~mpingo/pnac2.html

page references are to
http://newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Space Command — Control of the "International Commons"

". . . control of space – defined by Space Command as 'the ability to assure access to space, freedom of operations within the space medium, and an ability to deny others the use of space' – must be an essential element of our military strategy" (p. 55).

"The ability to have access to, operate in, and dominate the aerospace environment has become the key to military success in modern, high-technology warfare. . . . How well the Air Force rises to the many challenges it faces – even should it receive increased budgets – will go far toward determining whether U.S. military forces retain the combat edge they now enjoy" (pp. 38–39).

"Much as control of the high seas – and the protection of international commerce – defined global powers in the past, so will control of the new 'international commons' be a key to world power in the future. An America incapable of protecting its interests or that of its allies in space or the 'infosphere' will find it difficult to exert global political leadership" (p. 51).

"As Space Command also recognizes, the United States must also have the capability to deny America's adversaries the use of commercial space platforms for military purposes in times of crises and conflicts. Indeed, space is likely to become the new 'international commons', where commercial and security interests are intertwined and related. (pp. 54–55).
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