What would you do - a neighbor is arrested by Homeland Security?

[bleedingheart]

Let us say that this neighbor was a republican, a normal guy, you talk to him you know his kids. Aside from his voting patterns, you like him. He has a normal job, he is a typical buy father in the USA. Your pretty sure that he has to be innocent.

In fact his wife comes to your house, she is crying, hysterical. She has no clue why he was arrested. They won't tell her because they don't have to. They won't ler her call him and...their kids are getting scared about what happened to daddy.

She comes to you for assistance/advice.

What would you do?

It may seem far fetched but I suspect that a lot of innocent people are going to get caught in the data mining trap. Just a few key words in an email to a friend and...poof....you could be in Gitmo or worse...

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. I'd help if I could but other than contacting the ACLU I wouldn't have

a clue what to do.

[bluethruandthru]

2. I'd tell her "this is what happens when you vote Republican"!

Ok...that may be a little harsh, but part of me thinks that many of the republican sheeple will never wake up and admit to the unlawful, treasonous, anti-American behavior of shrub and his followers until they personally have to deal with some of the consequences.

[0007]

3. I'd tell her, "I don't offer advice to republicans" (just kidding)

[ET Awful]

4. I'd be thankful if ANYBODY arrested my neighbors.

I might finally have an evening without listening to them scream at each other about dumb shit. :evilgrin:

[zanne]

23. LOL!

There's a smartass in every bunch.

[Twist_U_Up]

5. I wouldn't do anything.

If they where to blind to see this coming, fuck em. I mean they have been fucking us for 5 years or more.Remember this one: GET OVER IT!!!!They accepted everything he has done up until now let them wallow in it. Let them cry to other pubs then maybe when they see their own ilk blatting about these thugs maybe it will settle in.

[flobee1]

7. As much as I hate to admit it

Twist is right.
I'd call the ACLU-but apart from that, its what they voted for and defended the president for doing
If enough republicans get hauled off, they might change their minds.
I actually did just that to a repug friend who's vote came back to haunt him. He started telling me about his situation, I gave him a few words of advice, and ended with, BUT-this IS what you voted for!

[Twist_U_Up]

18. I feel sorry for the kids

I might offer to look over them until they get things straightened out with their Kings.

[Maru Kitteh]

22. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind

I would do whatever I could for her, we didn't get any information in this hypothetical about the WIFES voting patterns and unless you are the kind of person who assumes that women cannot think for themselves we have no reason to assume she is also a Republican voter.

I would do whatever I could and encourage her to speak to as much media as possible and assist her in that endeavor.

[Marie26]

58. So I guess when they start

rounding people up, DU will be there to cheer them on. Wouldn't have thought it.

[rooboy]

64. That would actually be a REALLY bad tactic.

The question isn't what the arrest would do to your neighbor, the real question is what the arrest does to the government. It emboldens them. You'd definitely be next.

[meegbear]

6. "If your innocent, you have nothing to worry about"

"God Bless America!"

[napi21]

8. I'd do anything I could to help.

I've NEVER been ashamed of an UDers responses...until this AM! I assume because you are on THIS board, yu are Dems. We are supposed to care about people and what ever might happen to them even if it's unfair and done by the gov't THEY elected! I see almost all the responses here that basicly say "TS! He's a Pug!"

I don't even know a lot of my neighbors, and because I live in North Ga., I suspect all of them are Pubs, but if they were in trouble, I'd sure do anything I could to help them!

[flobee1]

10. I want to help them too

But until they see that these actions have consequences, from the ordinary citizen all the way to the President, nothing will change.

Karma!

[MissHoneychurch]

11. I am with you

I am shoked by some of the responses.

[bleedingheart]

16. I am with you...I would do what I could

[atreides1]

17. Nothing to be ashamed of

This is what is called honesty, you know the truth. Isn't that what most here keep calling for? A question was asked and people replied truthfully.

Since when do Dems not have the right to voice their frustrations, without having to meet someone else's definition of what's right or wrong?

Personally, I wouldn't help the person being arrested, my wife and I would try to help his family, but to quote a line from a movie "for the father, nothing."

The fact is that this is the kind of thing that the Dems have been warning people about for the last 5 years, but the Republicans refuse to accept the fact that they made a mistake, they let their pride cloud their judgement.

So as someone else pointed out, they voted for this administration, now they get to be treated like the rest of us.

[hang a left]

20. I am with you napi

With the exception of rabid pro* folk who defend every outrageous thing that he does, most republicans are just ignornant. 95% of the population has no idea how fu#@ed they are, democrat or republican.

The average "informed" American reads half of the front section of his local newspaper, watches the evening news and that is all the information he has.

How many people do you know who read articles from the top American and foreign newspapers or news services every day? How many people know where the policy makers in this administration come from? How many average Americans are aware that their media is nothing but disinformation, manipulation, and propaganda?

Except for the rabid followers, Republicans are just ill informed people.

[hwmnbn]

26. Well this particular "republican" is not ignorant anymore....

Maybe the wife can contact her church group and they could pray about it.

If her family falls on hard financial times because of it, she can see what government programs now offer as a safety net.

If her health insurance runs out, they better not get sick.

This is where her faith in the righteousness of the chimp will be tested. Will she still want to have a beer with him?

I'm sorry, I'd tell her to talk to her elected repugly leaders. They are the ones that put her husband in jail. I voted for Kerry.

Then I guess I'd give her a list of senators to contact, and welcome her to the real world.

[Maru Kitteh]

39. Where did it say she voted for Republicans?

If she voted for Kerry too, you just made your yourself look like an ass. Lot's of good Democrats out there are married to republicans, should we treat them like shit and tell them to go away?

[hwmnbn]

44. I was talking about her husband.......

:dem:

[Maru Kitteh]

49. "This is where her faith in the righteousness of the chimp will be tested"

"will she still want to have a beer with him"


:shrug: Did I miss something?

[hwmnbn]

53. The chimp's campaign played up to.......

his christian morality or "righteousness"

It also pushed the idea that the chimp is an everyday nice guy who you'd like to hang out and have a beer with. It was a major theme of his public relations image.

My point was that now that her husband has been arrested, will she still believe the hype?

I should've been more clear, but I was too busy keeping up with your other posts. You type FAST!!! :rofl:

[foreverdem]

9. Tell her too bad

They did this to themselves by voting against their own interests, against their basic civil rights and voting this band of thieves and liars into power. You have reaped what you have sown. Don't come crying to me about it.

[Maru Kitteh]

25. Excuse me WHERE in this hypothetical did it say SHE was republican?

We didn't get any information in this hypothetical about the WIFES voting patterns and unless you are the kind of person who assumes that women cannot think for themselves we have no reason to assume she is also a Republican voter.

There are millions of political mixed marriages in this country and if anyone/we collectively are so hateful, blind and ignorant as to throw away the votes of those spouses just for the "crime" of being married to republicans we DESERVE to lose forever.

I guess pubs don't have a monopoly on blind ignorant hate after all.

[hwmnbn]

28. No reason to assume she's not......

I'm "assuming" if she's sleeping with the guy, they agree on most important matters. But I see your point, the more information we have, the better decisions we can make.

For me it's not a question of hate, it's a question of responsibility.

[Maru Kitteh]

35. So you would then pre-judge her based on YOUR order of priorities

not very enlightened when you think about it.

They can still very easily agree on the most important matters TO THEM and easily be from other parties. We're very fast forgetting that in this country and it's just getting sick. I have no less than three sets of in-laws from different parties. The women are all good Democrats. I'm shocked at how the people on this board would treat them, including you.

[hwmnbn]

40. Veganistan, it's a hypothetical.........

If I knew this neighbor all this information would be known. If I didn't know this neighbor, she wouldn't be at my door.

I'm not trying to diminish your outrage, but what if the chimp were thrown in jail and Laura knocked on your door? How would you handle that?

BTW that's another hypothetical. O8)

[Maru Kitteh]

48. I'm upset about the unthinking chauvenism involved and displayed here

as well as the blind hatefullness. I really hope most people on here are just talking tough on their keyboards because if this many on DU, we who proclaim ourselves progressive and compassionate would truly treat their neighbor this way then we really do deserve to lose.

P.S. I'm not going to bother with the red herring.

Peace.

[Maru Kitteh]

50. hwmnbn, I didn't pay attention to who responded to my post.

Scratch that "including you" part, it was intended for the person I was responding to. My bad.

:spank: <--- Veganistan

peace.

[hwmnbn]

57. Ouch!!... waaaaah... sniff.... sniff..

:cry: Now you did it! I'm gonna tell Skinner you hurt my feelings! :cry:

Nothing like a good family squabble early in the morning. You're fun, Veganistan. Peace back to ya.

[Maru Kitteh]

71. DANG, I can't get anything right today, doing too many things at once

My illustration should have looked like this


Veganistan ----> :spank: <---- hwmnbn

Sorry. :blush:

[foreverdem]

47. Where does it say that she's not?

You're right, it doesn't say that she is a Repub, nor does it say that she's a Dem, and no, I hardly think that she cannot think for herself.

If they are married, it would be reasonable to think that they share some common ground on political views. Nowhere in my post did it say that I feel hatred towards this woman, no matter what her political affiliation.

[Greyhound]

80. Nobody deserves what's coming... n/t

[mmonk]

12. I would say, "welcome to reality".

[PabloLego]

13. I'd laugh

"arrested" DHS? Hahaha! I'd look around for the Punk'd camera crew. Anyway being Republicans they've probably got access to hellacious attorneys that make the ACLU attorney's look like...well...ACLU attorneys. Think about it...who has the ACLU sprung from Gitmo or hell, even the county jail recently? Amyone? I mean as long as we're indulging or pot-induced paranoid fantasies...

[hwmnbn]

34. Then the lady has no problems, right?......

Fuck her! pass the doobie, Pablo

Welcome to DU :hi:

[mmonk]

59. Pot-induced fantasies?

[PabloLego]

62. paranoid indulgence...maybe not pot induced...

Well...ya know more folks are still arrested for unpaid parking tickets so before the brownshirts or black shirts or Wal-Mart smocks come in the middle of the night.

I think the premise/story that started this thread is a paranoid indulgence. There are far more documented cases of egregious civil rights violations and circumvention of due process to raise the pulses of even the most conservative out there without silly "what if" speculations. Sorry...but let's stick to the facts without pointless theorizing. Anyone know for a fact what powers of arrest (if any) that DHS has? What their SOP regarding apprehension and detention of suspects? Anyone? Hard facts? Any one?

[TheWatcher]

70. Um, Yeah.

Somehow I have a feeling the "Hard Facts" would get lost on you, and pretty much do on a regular basis.

Hope you enjoy your "visit."

[Jim__]

14. Call the media!

These things have to be publicized. I hadn't heard of this recently. I heard about it after 9/11 when they arrested a bunch of people without charges. The Americna people have to know this is going on. It's not just to "foreigners"! The government grabs a bunch of information from disparate sources, adds 1 and 1 and gets 4. Someone is arrested without any charge.

[Lerkfish]

15. I would be horrified but not surprised. Once Fascism takes hold, no

group is safe, not even the inner circle.

I would try to help, but I would also do everything possible to protect my own family.
Just because they were republican doesn't make that any less a horrible thing to do to any family.
I feel the same way for those who would be caught up for the crime of just being muslim, or Peace
activists, or whatever the rationalization du jour would be for the fascists.

I care about my fellow man, not just the fellow man that is exactly like me. That's what makes me a democrat, an american, and a human being.

[neoblues]

19. If I were...

a Republican...
Q. If she's attractive?
A. Convincing her he's gone forever... and, not to worry, she still attractive and if she needs someone to be there for her, night (wink) or day... When you need a shoulder to cry on... (wink) or if you just can't be alone (especially all night long)... (wink)
Q. If their property (house/lot/etc) is desirable?
A. Help her realize how he'll never be back and the best thing she could do is to move back to her home/family, and I'd be happy to help her by taking care of the disposal of her assets... (wink) Perhaps I should just assume your mortgage to relieve you of that burden... (wink)
Q. If they own a lucrative business?
A. Since he's gone, and even if he comes back they'll never be free of the unwanted government attention, besides, she'll need all the money she can get together to help in her search and fight to get her husband back--I might be able to quickly buy or sell their business for them (take it off their hands--at a discount, of course)... (wink)
Q. Explain to her that people need to keep guns in their home for protection...
A. I can help her pick a good gun and teach her to use it (for a minimal charge)... (wink) Or perhaps she'd want to buy one of mine (I wouldn't sell it for more than twice or three times the retail price)... (wink)
I'd certainly find some way to profit from the situation, and while adultery is said to be a sin, these would surely qualify as extenuating circumstances... and every woman needs to be armed and know how to protect her home in case one of those liberals/people on public assistance tries to break-in to rape or steal (everyone knows they're the ones who are amoral, unethical and dishonest and usually responsible for criminal activity). Since she's Republican too, I'd be happy to console her (as long as she's attractive or has some assets worthy of interest) and help her come to understand that if her husband was taken, there must have been a good reason (either he was associating with terrorists (liberals, muslims, foreigners...) or maybe he was one himself (like a 'mole', 'deep plant' or worse--a 'closet liberal' (like, did he like to pet puppies, believe in "Global Warming", care about the environment, etc?)... In any case, in situations like this, she needs someone to blame--and I'm an expert on finding worthless, people who don't deserve to live, to blame!

a Democrat...
A. I could help her get in touch with a support group for victims of government "disappear-ments".
A. I could help direct her to a lawyer (not much help, but perhaps some).
A. I could at least answer some of her questions, such as "how could this happen?" (ie. Don't you know who you elected and what they've been up to? Did you know what the "Patriot Act" was about? How the government was supposed to work, the separation of powers, limitations on the Executive Branch and Congressional "Oversight"... etc. Late education is better than no education...)
A. Help her contact our Congressmen (average Republican probably doesn't know how; freepers do), and perhaps, if it seems reasonable, see if there's any interest from the media?
A. General assistance with managing her situation...
A. Show her she's not alone.
It's a terrible thing, and one that represents a decline of truly American values. A result of one-party having become intoxicated with power and power corrupts. However, there are people who will help to support her and there are things that can be done--not absolutely effective, but hopeful. In any case, it would be a mistake to become lost in self-destructive thoughts (such as hate) and behaviors. Becoming involved in social activities and groups dedicated to reforming and restoring our nation as well as those that focus on solving problems like this one, are among the best choices--since they provide support, can keep you busy and, in the end, do make a difference in the world (though we would often wish they could bring about more rapid change).

[hwmnbn]

36. Whoa!! I have to remember your screen name ....

You're someone I could work with. :evilgrin:

[bleedingheart]

41. my you have given this a great deal of thought...

[samplegirl]

21. I would like to feel compassion

but when is enough...enough? What ever happened
to the adage of learn from your mistakes?
This is what they voted for.
Then ask yourself if it were homeland security at
your door. What would your republican neighbor
do for you?
Same thing they did to get you handcuffed and
taken away.
Support the Chief!!!

[Maru Kitteh]

31. Where in this hypothetical does it say that SHE voted for *?

Or are you the kind of person who assumes just because a woman is married she does not have her own political mind? There are millions of political mixed marriages. Will you throw away the votes of those Democrats for the crime of being married to a republican?

[hwmnbn]

37. It's not a crime YET, give it time..........

Maybe HE got thrown in jail for being married to a democrat. :rofl:

Again we need more information.

[Maru Kitteh]

42. Now THAT I could believe!

My theory is she spends all night on DU posting tinfoil theories that hit too close to home. :tinfoilhat: Unfortunately for Mr. Smith in this scenario, she registered under his name. She's crying because she's racked with guilt. :P

[hwmnbn]

46. I think you just hit on the plot....

of a best selling novel. Send it to Scott Turrow.

:hi: :hug:

[we can do it]

24. Sorry for Your Luck - You Helped Put These Maniacs In Charge -

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. It's a Repuke?

I would do nothing. Sorry. They deserve it. If it was a Democrat, I'd contact the ACLU. Just being honest here. I HATE repukes. He would have brought this on himself. Oh well.

[MadHound]

29. I would do what I would for anybody I know, and like

I would do what I can to help her. Comfort her, direct her to legal resources, catch her up on the reality of what Homeland Security is about. Politics should not trump helping somebody seeking justice.

[MyNameGoesHere]

30. I would just nod my head

and say " Aren't you glad gays can't marry and the evil commie Dems won't get your guns?". Then close the door. I do not help traitors to freedom and democracy.

[BiggJawn]

32. Before or after I soiled myself?

I'm quite sure I'd be on the plane to Gitmno before any "nice" ReTHUGlicans, so the question's really moot.

[poverlay]

33. How is it fair to MY children for me to jump in front of a bus for the

sake of the person who bought it, gassed it up, and handed the keys to a total incompetent? I might help, but I'm certainly not going to the wall for this person. They are sowing the whirlwind with their ignorance and hatred. Having a few of them "disappear" will massively improve the gene pool.

[samplegirl]

38. Divided we stand

from the Great Uniter!

[Gormy Cuss]

43. I'd offer support to the extent that I could.

Children don't deserved to be screwed over even if the parents did something worthy of Vaterland Security. If the parents are guilty of nothing more than blind allegiance to the Republican party, I'll defend them as surely as anyone else. I also wouldn't expect them to transform magically into liberals because of this experience either, but unless they're stupid they will rethink their allegiances.

[havocmom]

45. Call the ACLU and then march myself to the VFW hall and insist all the

holiday patriots get up and join me in defending the rest of our neighbors.

If somebody says hold still and you won't get hurt, fight like hell, cuz they are planning to hurt you.

[jbnow]

51. Odd answers

No help for the other side?
I know some Republicans that voted for Kerry, even if they did it sadly.

Or if we needed help would it be cool for Republican neighbors to say liberals deserve it?

Or what if it was a republican family member? Would we want them ignored?

It sounds like as long as they come for others, not like us, we don't worry. It sounds very familiar to that powerful writing on Nazi era.

[Maru Kitteh]

52. Sad answers, very sad

I hope it's just keyboard bravado or we don't deserve any better than what we've got.

[Atman]

54. Those are odd answers.

I've tried to point out to repubbies many times that which they clearly don't understand: I cannot stand Bush (well, okay, they understand that part), but if ANY nation invaded our shores to overthrow him in an attempt to "help" America, I'd fight to the death to defend the United States sovreignity and even the presidency. Because it isn't about THEM. It is about America. That is the part the republicans never seem to understand. They think only in terms of short-term political gains for their party, but never about the long-term ramifications their actions will have for THE NATION.

[Atman]

55. Confession:

At first my response was going to be "Hoist an American flag and slap a few yellow ribbons and W stickers on my car. At least until the black Escalades departed."

But I realized that really isn't that funny. It seems that, metaphorically at least, that many DUers would do exactly that. Yikes.

[Marie26]

61. It's all about the hate

Some people sound like they'd actually be glad if Republicans start disappearing. Kinda scary.

[Marie26]

56. People wouldn't do much

Judging by history. And what could you do, really, after someone has already been arrested? If it was beforehand, I'd try to help them escape, or hide. But if the government has already imprisoned people... there's not much to do to help them, short of an armed revolt. (Can't believe we're actually seriously thinking about these things.)

[NYC Liberal]

60. Seems some DUers on this thread only REALLY care about themselves

and the people who are just like them.

"They don't have the exact same opinions as me...FUCK 'EM!"

Personally, I'd do everything I could to help, whatever that might be.

[demgurl]

63. I know you should not assume but in this case I will.

I am not quiet in how I feel about politics or even the world in general. If this woman is coming to me then she must have seen all those bumper stickers on my car and she must know who she is running to. I can only assume since they have already taken her husband that she has had time to sit down and think this out. She must now realize the amount of koolaid that has been consumed and she can no longer count on those people to help her since they still believe the chimp can do no wrong. She would only come to someone who thinks so radically different if she had no one else to turn to or if she felt I could help. Either way, how can I slap someone who is down?

I would make sure any children she had were put in my son's rooms and out of harms way. I would tell her to get whatever she needed for at least a week and to assume she would not be returning to her house for a while. After the kids were tucked I would bring her to my computer and show her DU. I would explain (truthfully) that I have no idea how to help her but there are a lot of good and knowledgeable people on here who might be able to. I would post and hope some of you would be able to direct her. I would hope that by offering her shelter and introducing her to a new world (you folks) that she would begin to see the light.

I'd keep the lady sheltered and tell her not to leave my house until we figured out what was going on. I would also have some heartfelt conversations with her about how we feel the media hasn't been free for a long time and how a lot of us did see warning signs but that overall the GOP kept the country duped.

I honestly would not care about rubbing anything in anyone's face or telling them to live with their decision. The end result is all I care about. The end result should be a light bulb going off but it should also be helping someone who is in a time of need.

[rzemanfl]

65. Arrest my neighbor and his kids! n/t

[DemonGoddess]

66. help her however I was able to

[Geek_Girl]

67. I would try to help

I'm not sure exactly how maybe by helping her contact the ACLU, contacting the media and encouraging her to get this information out to the public. I would also come on here to get advice.

[Breeze54]

68. You said they're repigs AND nice??? Aw C'mon!!

Did they support Domestic wiretapping of Americans?
:shrug:
If so? I'd say; "Tough luck, Chuck!" and then I'd laugh!

Are they the same neighbors that wake me up early ( 6 AM )
on Saturday morning because they just 'HAVE" to
blow all the dirt in their yard into mine??

I'd pull the shades and sleep peacefully for once!
Zzzzzzz.....

:rofl:
:wink:

[stlsaxman]

69. Hold on a second here- why would they arrest HIM?

Chances are the scenario would be quite the opposite. And to take the hypothetical one step further- HE would more likely be the one to turn in a Democrat.


And I seriously doubt either he or his wife would raise even a little finger to help my family. That's the difference between the parties.


Still, I would do everything in my power to help his spouse....

[flvegan]

72. Let me know if you don't get my point here:

When they came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

[bleedingheart]

73. I get your point and...

as I read the news this morning about data mining..etc I started to wonder, will people stand up and fight for their neighbors as they are arrested or do what the people of Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia and other nations did as the SS rounded up innocent people.

I know that i would fight for my neighbors but I don't know that my neighbors would fight for me...

[flvegan]

78. Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.

Seems appropriate to add a bolstering quote from the man, King.

Remember that "neighbors" aren't just the folks that live around you. Even if those that live around you don't fight for you, other "neighbors" likely will.

[bleedingheart]

79. there has already been too much silence and acceptance of

the Bushistas fascist goosestepping and it frightens me.

[flvegan]

81. You're right. Hopefully, maybe, this will be the wake up call

for a supporter of this fascist regime. I'm assuming that he was indeed taken for unfounded and/or erroneous reasons. Maybe it'll set him, and his family if they are so inclined, to rethink their political standing and support.

[Liberal In Texas]

82. flvegan, we must have posted at about the same time...

my quote was a little different, but I hope people get the point.

[flvegan]

83. Yup, same sentiment...obviously has some credibility.

It's all in the same meaning, right?

[Liberal In Texas]

85. Yep, I wish the many of the people I run across everyday would realize

that just because these things don't bother them today, that tomorrow these thing might make them be put on the street.

How many people are out there that didn't support the union organization, because they had a good job and were paid well? Then there was no job because it got outsourced.

How many bitter workers that worked 30+ years and expected the pension were suddenly in a situation where the company was sold or declared bankruptcy because of mismanagement or incompetence or greed, and now have no where to turn and are too old to start over?

How many retirees go to the drug store expecting their meds to be covered after 40+ years of toil, only to be told that they will now cost the next months food bill?

<sorry for the rant>

[flvegan]

86. "Sorry for the rant" nothing.

Perfectly appropriate and stated.

Two words: WAKE UP!

[Liberal In Texas]

74. ...First they came...

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

Pretty much sums it up.

[FreedomAngel82]

75. The ACLU

[SammyWinstonJack]

76. I'd tell her,

"You voted for this, you're on your own." :shrug: Like this same person would stick up for me in the same situation? :rofl: It's the "Pottery Barn" rule here, ie, "you broke it, you bought it!" Sorry, no sympathy from me on this one.

[TheFriendlyAnarchist]

77. I'd apologize to her, cuz they most likelyl arrested him by mistake

while they were looking for me ;)

[KAZ]

84. Fight for her, fight for him, fight against Them...

I may disagree with their opinions. I may loath them for their outlooks. I might even send them threats via email (hey Tweety). But I'll fight for the principle that they can spew their vile Repuketitude all they want. Just remember. Anything they can spew, I can spew better.

[lpbk2713]

87. "Come with us. We just want to ask you a few questions,"

Six months later you're still imprisoned without any charges.

Just a vague allegation of your being an "enemy of the state".