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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:47 AM
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bush says we're winning in Iraq; Reality says WRONG AGAIN, lying idiot!
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 11:50 AM by LynnTheDem
NYT: Report Says Number of Insurgent Attacks in Iraq Increases

WASHINGTON - Sweeping statistics on insurgent violence in Iraq that were declassified for a Senate hearing on Wednesday appear to portray a rebellion whose ability to mount attacks has steadily grown in the nearly three years since the invasion.

The statistics were included in a report written by Joseph A. Christoff, director of international affairs and trade at the Government Accountability Office, who testified before the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee during a hearing on Iraq stabilization and reconstruction.

The American military declassified the statistics so he could present them to the hearing in his report, Mr. Christoff said in an interview. The figures cover attacks on American and Iraqi forces and civilians.

The curve traced out by the figures between June 2003 and December 2005 shows a number of fluctuations, including several large spikes in insurgent activity — one as recently as October of last year. But while American and Iraqi officials have often pointed to the downward edges of those fluctuations as evidence that the steam was going out of the insurgency, the numbers over all seem to tell a different story, Mr. Christoff said. "It's not going down," he said. "There are peaks and valleys, but if you look at every peak, it's higher than the peak before."

See Hissyspit's original posting of the above NYT article at;
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2096461

Iraq Utilities Are Falling Short of Prewar Performance
Performance has fallen even though $16 billion of U.S. taxpayer money has already been disbursed in the Iraq reconstruction program.
http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/09/international/middleeast/09hearing.html&OQ=_rQ3D1&OP=3ace922eQ2FsMXFs!bZkJbbH-s-yyEsy-syisVQ5DHXJQ5DQ5CHVbQ5DQ5CPsDV!!PXXQ5CkHsyi@XQ5CJVQ5DQ3AQ2B@HDP

And we can't even do as well as Saddam Hussein.

Republican senator Chuck Hagel, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee;

"No, I don't think we're winning. We're in trouble, we're in deep trouble in Iraq."
http://www.iht.com/articles/539563.htm

Yeppers, Chuck...and it's steadily getting worse.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:51 AM
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1. Is his spaceship coming close to Mars yet?
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:52 AM
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2. he hasn't 'visited' there
since thanksgiving '93 when he showed up with that plastic turkey, has he? since things are going so well, you'd think he'd want to go there and get some photo ops with the wonderful results of his war. since it's been such a success, he could use it to help with pukes' campaigns and all :crazy:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:55 AM
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3. We are? Whose side is he on? n/t
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:57 AM
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4. "final throes"
again
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:57 AM
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5. Depends how "winning" means. Winning could be that they have
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 11:58 AM by applegrove
an excuse to stay in Iraq because the insurgency is keeping the war going at a lovely purr. That is the way they might define "winning".

"Winning" may mean they get a "long war". And you thought they were fighting the insurgents!!! :rofl: You and your search for the truth is the enemy. Insurgents are not. They won = long war.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:59 AM
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6. I wonder what his definition of losing would be.
His self-serving comments on Iraq discount any truth about the situation.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 12:06 PM
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7. His definition of "losing"; that would be the minute before the
Made In Pakistan nukes hit us.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 01:10 PM
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8. Peace too soon?
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