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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 05:27 PM
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A Constitutional Amendment restore democracy:Paper ballots and Hand counts
Want your government back? Lets do it through a constitutional amendment requireing paper ballots and hand counts!!
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 05:29 PM
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1. I agree -- if we could wait over a month through an election contest
we can wait a week to find out who our new president REALLY is.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 05:30 PM
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2. and to never ever ever let anyone associated with the BFEE
anywhere near the public trust.

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Ebaum Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 05:33 PM
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3. sounds like a good idea
electronic voting machines scare the crap out of me because the ease at which one can screw with it and have no evidence is extremely high.
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 05:35 PM
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5. Welcome to DU... Peace Ebaum
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 07:02 PM
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7. Hi Ebaum!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 05:34 PM
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4. How about a redundant system?
Electronic Machines for fast results, Paper Ballots a requirement, and then, additionally, handcounting of 100% of all Paper Ballots for absolute verification of 'fast results'?

Completely forget 1% auditing if certain threshold conditions are met. Just hand recount everything as a check and balance on the other.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 05:40 PM
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6. There are ONLY two DIFFICULT ways to amend the Constitution
There are two ways to amend the Constitution:

Article V of the Constitution provides two methods for adding Amendments. Congress introduces amendments by one method; the states initiate them under the other.

The only method ever used is the congressional method. It lets Congress pass constitutional amendments by a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate. Such amendments must then be ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures or special state conventions, as Congress determines. Over 10,000 amendments have been introduced into Congress since 1789. Only 33 have been approved. Of these, 27 have been ratified and added to the Constitution.

The other way of amending the Constitution has never been successfully used. Under this procedure, the states initiate the amending process by petitioning Congress for a constitutional convention. When two-thirds of the states have submitted petitions, Congress must call a convention. Any amendments approved by such a convention must be ratified by three-fourths of the states. Congress decides whether state legislatures or state conventions will ratify these amendments.

Since the Constitution went into effect, there have been about 400 petitions from state legislatures calling for a convention to consider one thing or another. None of these efforts ever succeeded, but some came close. For years Congress ignored requests to pass an amendment allowing for the direct election of U.S. senators. Finally, in 1912, Congress passed the 17th Amendment, but only after supporters of the amendment were just one state short of triggering a constitutional convention.


http://www.lessonplanspage.com/SSInfoDiscAct-DoWeNeedANewConstConvention912.htm
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