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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:19 PM
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Ok, NOW IS THE FUCKING TIME TO STRAIGHT UP CALL CHIMPY A LIAR!
Bush: U.S. Surveillance Helped Stop Attack

WASHINGTON - Under fire for eavesdropping on Americans, President Bush said Thursday that spy work stretching from the U.S. to Asia helped thwart terrorists plotting to use shoe bombs to hijack an airliner and crash it into the tallest skyscraper on the West Coast.

--SNIP--

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060210/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_33

If they are going to claim this, Dems have to just fucking come out and say: The mayor of L.A. has no knowledge of this so, either Bush is grossly incompetent or a liar. There is no middle ground.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:20 PM
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1. the current LA mayor was NOT mayor in 2002 nt
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:22 PM
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4. Doesn't Matter
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 08:22 PM by Beetwasher
He would have been briefed of this anyway after he got into office.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:24 PM
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6. So?
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:54 PM
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19. He was State Assemblyman, then Speaker, then LA City Councilman...
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Villaraigosa

Prior to his service as mayor, Villaraigosa was the California State Assemblyman for the 45th District, the Speaker of the California State Assembly, and the Los Angeles City Councilman representing the 14th District.


Even if he wasn't the mayor at the time of this supposed plot, once he assumed office, you would think someone should have said to him "Oh, by the way, in 2002 we caught some terrorists who were going to crash a plane into a skyscraper in downtown Los Angeles. Its probably a good idea to remain on your toes."
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:21 PM
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2. The middle ground is
BOTH.

bush has always been a total incompetent idiot and a pathological liar. It's always been BOTH.
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:21 PM
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3. He just makes shit up. n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:23 PM
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5. Yes! It's the craziest, most farfetched story they've come up w/ yet.
It's so stupidly outrageous! The president must explain exactly how they were going to blow up their shoes and the cockpit and then hijack the plane and fly it into a skyscraper. Don't these people have story editors? IT MAKES NO SENSE. Call out the liar. Make him explain this one.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:25 PM
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8. Yup, And The Senate Has No Knowledge and was Never Briefed Either
So who the fuck did they tell about this? :shrug:
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:53 PM
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18. If the shoe bomb was strong enough to blow up a reinforced door
it would have blown up the plane... There would be no highjacking and no crashing into buildings. Please God...someone out there have some common sense?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:24 PM
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7. I for one am tired of chimps being insulted. They deserve better.
Good hearted primates more intelligent but less malevolent than our Glorious Leaders. Cut them some slack.

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Gatchaman Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:28 PM
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9. The real reason the mayor of LA doesn't know about this
is that the whole plot was more of an idea among al quada operatives in the far east. There were no hijackers, no shoe bombs, only plans.

I know the freepers are going to paint this as our courageous president roundhouse kicking a terrorist with a smoldering shoe out the door of an in-flight airliner, but it was a plan in the early stages, nothing more.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:30 PM
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11. LOL! Really?
How do you know? Even if you're correct, so what? If they learn of a plan, even in it's early stages, one of the FIRST things you fucking do is notify the people in charge of the target and give them a heads up. To do otherwise is incompetent and negligent.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:43 PM
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17. At least he's being consistent. Didn't warn the airlines regarding
a potential threat on or before 9/11...just let it happen. Bastard!
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:29 PM
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10. I bet he could teach him to swing on a vine.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:40 PM
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16. Or would you like to swing on a star?
Carry moonbeams home in a jar. And be better off than you are. Or would you rather be Rove's pig?

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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:32 PM
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12. Where is Ahnold in all of this?
Wouldn't he have been in the loop if this were true. Why isn't Ahnold on all the TV shows talking about this?

I'll answer my own question.

BECAUSE IT'S A BIG FAT LIE!


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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:33 PM
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13. Or Gray Davis
n/t
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:35 PM
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14. story--my contribution...
The President Who Cried Wolf

Regardless of whether he was Mayor or not, he was a politically active LA resident who knew nothing about this--it is a reasonable question to ask.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 08:36 PM
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15. I am hearing many editorial rebuttals from NPR reporters. Inserting their
own comments after quoting the administration. Challenging these fucks! Calling them out! We need to send supportive email whenever we hear a reporter telling the truth and dismissing these lies.:nuke:
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 09:00 PM
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20. Actually, he wanted to tell us...
...that earth was about to invaded by the Pod People (a new, exciting singing group out of Jupiter) (the planet, not the town in Florida).
By screwing around with the fancy wiretap equipment one evening, the chimp picked up a conversation between the Pod People and their earthbound manager - something about Fiji water in the dressing rooms.
Anyway, the chimp immediately spring into action (asked Cheney what to do) and by doing so, stopped the Jupiter invasion from taking place.
May God Bless America.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:20 PM
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21. And not only that, but the weather vane on my grandpa's farmhouse
sends secret codes to aliens who in turn bless his soybeans and corn.

And the pigs all can dance the Adagio from SWAN LAKE.

___

George Bush is a goddamned liar.
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