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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:18 AM
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Who would have known? The 'christian' Right and the Environment
Their view on the environment is the same as the... GOP's!

Their has been some talk about Evangelicals and Christians becoming Pro-Environment recently. In reality, not all that much has changed. Take the 'christian' Right for example, they are still towing the Republican line.

"Top leaders in the Christian Right, which consists mainly of socially conservative evangelical and fundamentalist Christians, have supported the administration in this view.

Among the most influential are Charles Colson, a former Nixon political aide who founded Prison Fellowship Ministries; James Dobson, the founder of the Colorado-based Focus on the Family; Richard Land, a top official in the Southern Baptist Convention; Donald Wildmon, chairman of the American Family Association; and James Kennedy, the head of Coral Ridge Ministries, another megachurch in Florida.

Organised into their own "Interfaith Stewardship Alliance," the right-wing group last week successfully blocked the leadership of the NAE, an umbrella group of more than 50 denominations representing some 30 million evangelicals nationwide, from endorsing the new Climate Initiative or taking any formal position on global warming."

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32093
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:23 AM
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1. Wasn't Nixon concerned about the environment?
Back in the 60/70's the republican party was more concerned about the environment.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:57 AM
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2. yes, some major environmental legislation was passed during
Nixon's time.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:59 AM
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3. Holy shit - we're actually saying good things about Nixon
Which makes you wonder - when exactly did the GOP become so militantly anti-environment?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:07 AM
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6. Nixon was close buddies with
the filthy rich Bebe Rebozo (sp?) For some reason, Bebe was very concerned about the degradation of the environment and managed to convince Nixon. At least that is what I vaguely recollect.
I think the clean air and water acts were passed during this time (?)
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keith the dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:30 AM
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9. If somebody today tried to do what Nixon did for the environment
they would be derided by our "liberal" media as a tree-hugging anti-business liberal dreamer.

How sad is it that we long for the days of Nixon??
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:41 AM
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11. Also, Nixon did the responsible thing and resigned
When he saw that his house of cards was tumbling, he did the right thing and stepped down. For having the guts to do that - the first president to EVER resign - I have a helluva lot more respect for him than I do for Chimpy.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:02 AM
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4. James Kennedy's Coral Ridge megachurch may be the worst of them
all.. I hope I'm reading this right.. he and his church are NOT endorsing the Climate Initiative.. because I don't think I could stomach agreeing with them on even one issue.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:07 AM
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5. Some churches see the light - and some are still oblivious
The only reason I can possibly think of is that some of these RWer churches are afraid of agreeing with a "liberal" issue - as if the survival of this planet could actually be defined in "liberal/conservative" tones.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:25 AM
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8. Some churches are connected with reality and responsibility . . .
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 09:25 AM by hatrack
And other churches are obsessed with what other people do with their pee-pees. I mean, really, it's just about as simple as that.

They're (Kennedy, Land, Dog-Beater) sort of the ecclesiastical equivalent of the C-SPAN callers who bring up Monica Lewinsky nine mortal years after the fact.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:12 AM
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7. Hey, they will take the environment over people any day.
But Christ didn't talk about visiting the endangered species or feeding the fish. He talked about visiting the sick and imprisoned and feeding the poor. In fact, He ate fish and lamb.
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keith the dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:41 AM
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10. A large part of the "sheeple" of the Christian Right
are good caring people who have been terribly misguided and have been emotionally high-jacked by issues such as abortion and gay rights.
Back in the early 20th century, it was the fundamentalist christians who pushed for the social policies that helped the poor. I believe that liberals must get these people back on the track of doing the work that Jesus actually talked about, away from the money grubbing used car salesmen posed as preachers who will use divisive issues only to line their own pockets.

Ironically it is we, you nonbelievers and agnostics included, who must "save" these people.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:43 AM
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12. Well, you can find just about anything you want in those books,
though it might take some creative interpretation. It is good that some are not restricting their reading to Leviticus and Deuteronomy, like too many.

It is a very good thing, the Earth needs all the help it can get if we are to attempt to mitigate our madness.

What this shows is that it's not what's in the book, it's what's in their hearts.
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