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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:08 AM
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It wasn't a "failed attempt." It was a "called off" plot. They are good
at what they do (the Bushbots that is). They searched and searched for a way to link something concrete to wiretaps and 9/11. Nevermind that Bush never really said that the US had anything to do with the so-called prevention of this would-be attack and nevermind that he never said that wiretaps had anything to do with it. BUT, just as they have successfully done with Iraq and 9/11, they are now doing that with the illegal wire taps. Just put it out there and the ditto head, unthinking, unintelligent, uninforemed, and manipulated masses will connect the mythical dots and come up with the result they want. THEY ARE GOOD. THEY ARE VERY GOOD.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:09 AM
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1. It wasn't "FOILED" because they never set out to actually do it.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:09 AM
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2. "Failed" in the sense of a some drunk guy spouting off about nothing.
And getting some story beat out of him by Indonesian security police.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:12 AM
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catapulting the propaganda.
As always. Lie Lie Lie, it's the New American Way!
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:12 AM
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3. Figures.
Quote: "Just put it out there and the ditto head, unthinking, unintelligent, uninforemed, and manipulated masses will connect the mythical dots and come up with the result they want."

Isn't it pathetic.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:15 AM
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4. Chimpy should have kept his mouth shut
my sense is that even some of the media whores are calling BS on this one.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:47 AM
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14. Even the terrorism experts are scratching their heads at this one
This sounds about as credible as the "blowtorch terrorist" story.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:15 AM
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5. Yahoo calls them on it... bush "gilded a lilly"!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060210/ts_alt_afp/usattacksbushthwart_060210080140

LA skyscraper plot never got beyond talk: analysts Fri Feb 10, 3:04 AM ET



SINGAPORE (AFP) - An alleged Al-Qaeda plot to crash an airplane into a Los Angeles skyscraper but foiled with the help of Asian nations never got beyond the discussion stage, security analysts said.

President George W. Bush and other US officials could have revealed new details of the plot Thursday in an effort to forge tighter international cooperation in the so-called "war against terror", the analysts said.

Bush said Khalid Sheikh Mohammed planned to have operatives hijack an airplane, use shoe bombs to breach the cockpit doors and fly the jet into Los Angeles' tallest building, the 310-metre (1,017-foot) US Bank Tower, also known as Library Tower.

Bush said that instead of using Arab hijackers, as in the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon, the plot called for "young men from Southeast Asia whom he believed would not arouse as much suspicion."

"I think he is gilding the lily a little," said Clive Williams, adjunct professor at the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre of the Australian National University.

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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:25 AM
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6. Street Smarts
Street smarts is what they are good at thanks to the "brilliant" KKKrove. I never understood why anyone would call Rove smart. Everything he cooks up can be learned on any city street corner in America. He is a thug with street smarts, a con-artist just like all the con-artists that fill our courtrooms. I think our leaders in this country are mostly well educated, moneyed people who have no idea how the game is really played. The only thing that this fat, little pig is good at is understanding street smarts and how to use them. Street smarts are not learned in any university. People need to get out of the bubble and take a walk on the wild side to compete with rover.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:27 AM
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7. Link to the "called off plot" description by an expert:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x377282
thread title (2-10-06 GD): LA skyscraper plot never got beyond talk: analysts
Comment/excerpt: “"I think he is gilding the lily a little," said Clive Williams, adjunct professor at the Strategic and Defence Studies Centre of the Australian National University. He said that although Al-Qaeda had thought about such an attack, "I don't think they got very far in their planning process."

...and then there was the reporter's unanswered question about how a shoe bomb could be involved in a plot to dive into a building:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x371104
thread title (2-9-06 GD): Scotty/Chimp busted on "shoe bomb" bullshit...Scotty just snickers
Comment/excerpt: “Some reporter nailed him dead-to-rights regarding Bush's assertion that the LA plot involved a shoe bomber who was planning on taking over the plane and crashing it into an LA skyscraper. ‘But would a bomb just blow up the cockpit of the plane? I don't understand...it would either blow off the bomber's feet, or blow up the plane...how was this...’

No wonder the "heroic" announcement by Shrubbie took the LA mayor by surprise:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2096979
thread title (2-9-06 LBN): L.A. Mayor Blindsided by Bush Announcement (2002 Foiled Terror Attack)
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:44 AM
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12. Excellent links, as usual, NWH...Thanks for your wonderful concise....
...reference links.

This helps to condense the counter-punch info and is very useful.

We're as street-smart here as fishy old Karp Roe...I think we can counter every time, if we just cook down the response and fire right back with both barrels.

Proposed: A DU Daily "Talking Points" Rebuttal Forum
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:00 AM
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16. YVW. THere are so many outrages that have to be fought, I keep thinking
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 10:02 AM by Nothing Without Hope
of Jen Sorensen's cartoon from last year:

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:28 AM
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8. Southeast Asian Country Bails Out Failed pResident (n/t)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:30 AM
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9. Everything they do is only a response to
YOU LET 9/11 HAPPEN OUT OF INCOMPETENCE IF NOT WORSE.

They can never change that.
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LiberalPartisan Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:33 AM
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10. Since everything bad is Clinton's fault
It's only fair that Clinton get the credit for the attack being called off.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:35 AM
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11. The Bush cult excels at mass propaganda
So did Joseph Goebbels.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:46 AM
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13. THOUGHTCRIME--that's all this "plot" was
we are all terrorists, if that is the standard
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 09:55 AM
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15. He also introduced it by saying, "Now we know ..."
Now? So, um, when did you find out, exactly? So you didn't actually prevent anything. Once again, George Bush is a day late and a dollar short.
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