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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:24 AM
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Poll question: Are We Witnessing the Unraveling of the Bush Cabal?
So much is going on now... Katrina, Plame, DSM, etc. But I'm curious to see what others think:

Are we finally witnessing the "Great Unraveling" of the Bush Corporate Cabal?
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:26 AM
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1. No
By our standards, they've been unraveling for years. But as long as the media keep giving them the benefit of the doubt, Congress is under control of the Republicans, and the Democrats are unwilling to consistently oppose the administration, we're not likely to see real change.
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:28 AM
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2. It only seems to us to be unraveling.
The sheeple don't know and don't want to know.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:52 AM
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22. I have to agree....The Average Joe doesn't know and doesn't really
care. :(
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:29 AM
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3. Not quite yet
But it's inevitable. There's much more wingnuttery to be exposed.
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MsUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:31 AM
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4. I voted not yet.....but am keeping fingers crossed it's close.
More and more people are talking out about *'s policies, especially after this budget. I'm going to retire in April, and then I'm going to make sure I work to get Dems elected in November.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:32 AM
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5. Implicit Support
Despite the all too numerous failings of this administration, there seems to be an implicit support for Bush and his cabal. There is not a dominant sense of outrage, no explicit "these guys are such losers". Sure the poll numbers are down but that does not portend an unraveling. There is still significant media cheerleading.

Additionally, there is no united loyal opposition. The Democrats still flounder about and I'm hardpressed to name a Democrat poised to lead.

Incompetence and corruption has been rewarded by voters. I'd be surprised to see a big change.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:34 AM
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6. Something's unravelling...
...but whether that is the administration or their latest plot is as yet unclear.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:35 AM
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7. There will be no great unravelling until
more than 25% of this country actually votes from an informed position. We've destroyed not just political awareness, but the education and world view that underlies political awareness. Right now only half the people vote. And half of those who vote do so as blind idealogues (ok its more than half...a lot of democrats do too but at least...)

As it stands, Chimpy could molest an underage goat on Fox News and we'd still have freepers popping out of the woodwork defending him and calling him a great man. Why? Because his crimes...the truth...the reality of what is happing...NONE of it matters to them. They are brownshirts who are so overwhelmed by ignorance, fear, and religious fervor that they simply don't care for anything beyond their new neocon dogma.

I do think Chimpco will fall. But I fear they still have a good deal of time left in which to do terrible desctruction as they loot this country. I also think we haven't begun to see them fight in many ways. As they get backed further and further into a corner (and as 08 approaches) I think that there will be increased desperation and visciousness on their part.

Nov 06 is where we will know what the future holds. Either we retake the congress with spine-implanted democrats or there will be suckage the likes of which we have not imagined. And even if we win it'll take 6 years to BEGIN cleaning up the mess left behind.

Happy thoughts.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:36 AM
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8. More dogs and ponies.
Crumbs for the masses.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:37 AM
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9. It would be folly to discount this crowd
"Teflon presidency" doesn't begin to describe their ability to protect themselves and their power.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:32 AM
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15. not just for their ability to slide but for their longterm toxic effect nt
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:38 AM
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10. You need an option for GOD I HOPE SO
And maybe another one for the atheists . . . HOLY SPAGHETTI BEING I HOPE SO . . . or something like that. :P
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:39 AM
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11. Absolutely, and not just the Bush Cabal. IMO, this is the Human Race's
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 10:40 AM by cryingshame
push to finally work out some of its long ingrained tendencies towards tribalism (in abstract terms) and Fascism (in more concrete terms).

You don't get rid of addictions and destructive habits without experiencing intense pain for a time as your body gets rid of the ingrained, toxic cells.

Also, all we're going through is making it abundantly evident that Materialism is outmoded and no longer appropriate as the de facto Philisophical basis for our existence.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:36 AM
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16. we are also expunging fundamentalism, which has been blighting us
for far too long.
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:41 AM
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12. hahaha...How many times have we said this???? n/t
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:42 AM
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13. You need a Deja-vu voting category.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:21 PM
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27. like Enron, Abu Ghraib, Shiavo, polls before 2004 election...
They have taken any number of blows that would have ended other administrations.

Shiavo, while not as widely destructive as the other misdeeds, showed them as the absolute political opportunist and con men that they are, and should have resulted in them not being taken seriously about anything ever again.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:44 AM
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14. Only when we work together to put this godless hack out
It's time we tell our state and federal reps to do their duty or lose their seats.

Carl
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schmuls Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:44 AM
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17. I believe some unraveling is taking place, but whether it will...
ultimately lead to what we all want, remains to be seen. I want the whole fucked-up bunch of them lead through the streets in chains, pelted with stones, tarred and feathered and generally tortured. I feel such fury against them all. end of rant
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:47 AM
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18. 'Tis extremely frayed at this point! Won't be long now and I believe
the freepers are sensing it also.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:48 AM
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19. lemme draw you a picture on this:
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:51 AM
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20. sad but true
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:16 PM
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25. liberals are powerless?
I don't think so...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:51 AM
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21. Our system isn't working right now
so I say no. I don't see any evidence they are held to any accounting for their illegal behavior on any front.
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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:53 AM
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23. If we didn't live in the Bizarro dimension, they'd all be in jail by now.
I'm afraid the answer is "no."
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:55 AM
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24. The sky does seem to be falling
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 11:56 AM by Xap
on them.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:18 PM
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26. It has to get far enough along that corporate media jumps ship
Once most papers and corporate media realize that power is likely to change hands, they will suddenly grow a conscience and start doing their job, or at least report the charges Democrats raise on the front page.

They'll want to kiss up to the new sheriff.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:49 PM
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29. There'll NEVER be a new sheriff - not without elections.
Until people accept this little truth of no more elections since 1996 - all the scandals in the world will do nothing to this entrenched junta. Good people in this country feel too secure in the nice sounding words such as constitution, democracy, Bill of Rights - and refuse to believe that they are empty slogans nowadays.
The old sheriff is here to stay....
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:23 PM
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28. I voted not yet
I am sick of getting my hopes up and then the media backing off, or the cabal being able to change topics.

However, Bush's face looked awfully red yesterday, like he is drinking or drugging again. And calling the Library Tower the Liberty tower, and other word slurrings about cockpits and stuff make me think Gee Du(M)b is feeling the pressure!
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