OK, the MSM has now told us cheney outed Plame

[still_one]

WHERE ARE THE DEMOCRATS?

Why don't they hit this?

[liberal N proud]

1. Maybe they are waiting for the shit to really hit the fan

Maybe they are in hiding because the shit is going to hit the fan
Maybe they are just shit themselves.

Beats the hell out of me.

[still_one]

15. excellent answer

I think it problem is all of the above

[emulatorloo]

2. Give it a little time -- now- here is a relevant read -- take a look:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x379453

<snip>
salon.com
Daou Report
by Peter Daou

SCANDAL FATIGUE, CATNIP & THE 'ANGRY' LEFT: A few months ago, Steve Benen, Carpetbagger and DR guest-poster, wrote a fascinating blog entry that chronicled a series of Bush-related scandals .... all of which had occurred in the space of a week. In that regard, glance around this site today. You'll find an over-abundance of stories that undermine the credibility and integrity of our current administration and of the party in power. This coincides with a recent wave of references to the "angry" left, as though anger at the apathy of the media, the political establishment and much of the public in the face of this cavalcade of scandals is somehow in bad taste.

<snip>

[Catherine Vincent]

3. And why won't Fitzgerald indict him?

[On the Road]

8. So Far, Fitzgerald has Confined Himself to

charges connected with lying. Conspiracy, leaking classified information, and blowing an undercover agent's identity are much harder charges to prove.

With clever lawyers and ambiguous statutes these cases can fall apart. Fitzgerald seems like the careful type who will not issue an indictment unless he is sure of a conviction. I hope he's building a case against Cheney, but it may need additional evidence and take awhile for it to happen.

[Catherine Vincent]

10. I agree about the lying but he was put on this case to find out

who outed the covert agent. I hope he's building his case against the individual(s) who did this.

[Botany]

4. Well the following Dem senators don't won't rock the boat

The "Vichy" Democrats. Especially the ones who voted yes on
cloture but no on Alito.

HI Daniel Inouye
722 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected: 1962; re-elected: 1968, 1974, 1980, 1986, 1992, 1998, 2004.

• Seat up for election: Tuesday 2 November 2010

LA Mary Landrieu
724 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected: 1996; re-elected: 2002
• Seat up for election: Tuesday 4 November 2008

MT Max Baucus
511 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected: 1978; re-elected: 1984, 1990, 1996, 2002
• Seat up for election: Tuesday 4 November 2008

ND Byron Dorgan
322 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected: 1992; was induced to take the oath of office: 5 December 1992 when the seat became vacant upon outgoing Senator Kent Conrad (Democrat) having taken the oath of office for the "Class 1" seat from the state; re-elected: 1998, 2004.
• Seat up for election: Tuesday 2 November 2010

ND Kent Conrad
530 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected to the "Class 3" seat from the state: 1986; was not a candidate for re-election in the 3 November 1992 General Election; Elected to finish out the "Class 1" term in a Special Election: 4 December 1992 ; elected to a full term: 1994, 2000
• Seat up for election: Tuesday 7 November 2006

NE Ben Nelson
720 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected: 2000
• Seat up for election: Tuesday 7 November 2006

NM Jeff Bingaman
703 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected: 1982; re-elected: 1988, 1994, 2000
• Seat up for election: Tuesday 7 November 2006

SD Tim Johnson
136 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected: 1996; re-elected: 2002
• Seat up for election: Tuesday 4 November 2008

WA Maria Cantwell
717 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected: 2000
• Seat up for election: Tuesday 7 November 2006

WI Herb Kohl
330 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected: 1988; re-elected: 1994, 2000
• Seat up for election: Tuesday 7 November 2006

WV Jay Rockefeller
531 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected: 1984; re-elected: 1990, 1996, 2002
• Seat up for election: Tuesday 4 November 2008

WV Robert Byrd
311 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
FAX: [phone]
• First elected: 1958; re-elected: 1964, 1970, 1976, 1982, 1988, 1994, 2000
• Seat up for election: Tuesday 7 November 2006

[bear425]

11. Botany, please add to that list

Senator Bill Nelson, D-Florida

Washington, D.C.
United States Senate
716 Senate Hart Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

No on Alito, Yes on Cloture

[upi402]

24. most excellent

The never ending DINO pile. May they be fossils of the past after 2006.

[4morewars]

5. Move along folks,

Nothing to see here, why don't you go home and watch 'american idol' or better yet, go shopping !

[Imalittleteapot]

6. Dems maybe

holding back - waiting until we're closer to November - so they won't get Swift-Boated or Rathered? Silence is golden. If they don't come out strong eventually, I'll call them a bunch of whiny wimps. Watch the House and Senate on C-Span. It's the only way you can see how tough they can be. MSM will never give them a boost with accuarate reporting.

[still_one]

13. If it doesn't happen when the fire is hot it will never happen

people have been saying something to that effect for the past six years

[OzarkDem]

20. Such chickens

always cowering in front of the news media. No wonder they're always getting their asses kicked, they're asking for it.

[jarab]

7. Good question ..

They attack our every move (mistake?) because they stick together, they're more expert at manipulating any blowback, and they control the media when it really counts.
We do none of those things well - and oftentimes not at all. It's pathetic. We have very few backbones.

...O...

[lapfog_1]

9. Nerve agent in the Senate office building

nothin like a little "reminder" that the post 9/11 anthrax attacks can happen again if you get too "uppity"

"jamming on my tinfoil hat"

[Sgent]

12. Did Chaney do anything illegal?

If he authorized it, it might be perfectly legal what Scooter did -- thus the indictment on grand jury issues.

[still_one]

14. outing a covert CIA agent to the media is illegal

if he told libby to do that, which is what has been reported, then it sounds illegal to me

[Sgent]

16. There is a resonable argument that it isn't illegal

Cheney is an executive officer -- one of two. There is no question that Bush could have ordered it with his constitutional powers. Whether Cheney could have ordered it depends on various executive orders -- most of which are probably secret.

Now, there is question on whether this would be an abuse of power (IMHO yes), and subject to impeachment (IMHO yes), but criminal jepardy is a different question.

[Disturbed]

17. Superiors okd this.

Meaning more than one. Libby only had two Superiors. Bush and Cheney. The Congress won't touch this. The American public? Mostly not interested in this.

[BeHereNow]

21. EXACTLY...As I have said in the past, these people could eat live kittens

on the national news and the senate, congress and
the rest of what's left of America would think it was the
latest episode of "Fear Factor" or what ever that stupid
show is called.
We are SO past the window of turn around.
The LEGISLATION to squelch dissent has been rubber stamped,
with the complicity of our representatives, without so
much as a whimper from the majority of Americans.

Many of us who live in DU land have failed to notice
that WE are a VERY SMALL minority of those who actually
even FAINTLY comprehend what has happened.
Sometimes I wonder how many here really "get it."

BHN

[Zen Democrat]

18. Cheney has no authority to leak classified information.

Only the President has any authority in the executive branch. Constitutionally, the vice president presides over the Senate and casts tie-breaking votes. Other than that he has no other Constitutional obligations or powers.

I think a lot of pundits are assuming that Cheney is untouchable simply because he's de facto president. But he wasn't elected president and doesn't have any right to disclose classified information, unless directed to do so by the president.

Also, the vice president can be indicted. You don't impeach a vice president. You indict him and try him for crimes committed.

[Sgent]

27. Chaney has as much power

as Bush decides to delegate to him.

Bush can legally declassify the entire government if he feels like it, and can delegate that power to Chaney. In that respect, Chaney is no different than a cabinet secretary except he doesn't need confirmation.

A VP can be impeached -- and its the only way to remove him from office. A VP in prison, just like a federal judge in prison, still retains his office.

[OzarkDem]

19. Er...Reid is a fighter...umm...go Kerry.....uhhhh

Like electronic voting fraud, I don't think they even understand the Plame incident.

[BeHereNow]

22. Who doesn't understand?

I hope you mean the Ameican people-
because the atrocity is that Kerry and the rest of
them understand completely and have done
NOTHING of consequence in relation to their
power to do so.
THAT is our BIGGEST problem.
We HAVE NO REPRESENTATION.
BHN

[OzarkDem]

23. I agree

Our Dem leaders appear to know less or care less than their own constituents about the most important issues of the day.

[BeHereNow]

26. Whew! Thanks for the clarification.

For a minute you had me thinking
that yet another brain washed democrat
had washed onto the shores of DU.
AS IF these fuckers don't know what time it is
and DO NOTHING to uphold the rule of law!
Why? Because they are getting filthy rich in their
betrayal of WE, the people.
Fuck em all.
We are on our own and any one who thinks
otherwise needs to listen to Eisenhower's speech
warning us of the military industrial CONGRESSIONAL complex.
It has all come true.
BHN

[upi402]

25. Why are we waiting, we could be masterbaiting...

HHH tune