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Bzzzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:07 PM
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VA Nurse Investigated for “Sedition” for Criticizing Bush
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:13 PM
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1. Typical RW HR moron
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 01:13 PM by kurth
Betcha he didn't even know what happened to the Alien and Sedition Acts.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:19 PM
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6. What does your subject line mean?
Can you translate?
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:24 PM
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8. Right-wing human resources. The kind that
sides with management and treats employees like disposables.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:51 PM
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10. Ah . . . HR = Human Resources.
We're a Mom and Pop business, so we don't have a human resources department.

Thanks for the translation.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:02 PM
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12. Human Resources evaluation
is the official euphemism for torture.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:46 PM
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16. Is that the thing you have to sign to show you agree with your evaluation
- - or else?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:14 PM
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2. Forcefully removed?
I think that may be the key statement.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:21 PM
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7. forcefully and forcibly are not interchangeable
removed "with prejudice"

removed decisively

etc. The people who aren't differentiating are not that stupid. This is purely harrassment, shameless, bold, and designed to "scare" anyone else.

Call it like it is, whoever is "investigating" this should have her pretty fucking far down on the list after most of the republican party, right wing pundits, and Pat Robertson are counted.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:43 PM
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15. You are correct.
"act forcefully," synonym, EFFECTIVE

"forcibly" implies "armed resistance" for many but even then it does not have the full meaning:
1 : effected by force used against opposition or resistance
2 : characterized by force , efficiency, or energy : POWERFUL

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:40 PM
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9. The actual statement is
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 01:40 PM by Canuckistanian
"act forcefully to remove a government administration playing games of smoke and mirrors and vicious deceit"

The language is a little strong but I didn't take it to mean forcible overthrow of the government by violence.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:17 PM
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3. Having an opinion is treason, here in the 4th Reich. All hail B*sh! nm
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:18 PM
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4. yee haw! Hey boys and girls I am being seditious too
and I'm writing from work.

In addition to advocating the overthrow, through legal means, of this corrupt and fucked up government, I would also advocate that we hire people who are able to determine the difference between hyperbolic speech and real death manifestos.

It's pretty easy. "Overthrow the government through legal means" is pretty clear.

"Overthrow the government forcefully", in context of being a VA nurse, should probably have been "decisively"

"Round up the liberals and shoot them in the back of the head" - Ann Coulter, was real sedition. It advocated a violent overthrow of half the government, and murder of half the people. Therefore I conclude that Ann Coulter should face congress on charges of sedition and should be given a lethal injection of estrogen.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:58 PM
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11. Coulter might even develop tits before it dies.
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 01:59 PM by formercia
The adams apple will probably stil be there though.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:19 PM
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5. If Woodrow Wilson was in power with his Espionage Act, she'd be in prison
She would've been tried and placed into prison for advocating, teaching, or defending any criticism of the federal government.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:20 PM
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13. according to wikipedia:
"The term is deprecated in most countries, though equivalent language may still be in use in totalitarian and fascist jurisdictions"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition

"The legal difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of "levying war" against a government nor of "adhering to enemies, giving them aid and comfort" (Article Three, U.S. Constitution). Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful, non-violent protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention)."



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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:37 PM
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14. Nurses and schoolteachers, they're as bad as the terrorists.
Heard about the schoolteacher who lost her job and was blacklsisted because she told her class she honked her car horn when she drove by a peace demo where there was a sign "honk for peace"?


In Mayer’s case, she says it was an article in Time Magazine for Kids that lead to her termination. In January 2003, she was teaching a Current Events class to fourth, fifth and sixth graders at Clear Creek Elementary School. They had been discussing the articles in the magazine, which dedicated an issue to the situation in Iraq. One student asked Mayer if she had ever participated in a peace march.

“I said that peace marches are going on all over the country and that whenever I pass the courthouse square where the demonstrators were, I honk for peace because they hold up signs that say honk for peace.”

That night, a sixth-grade student girl told her parents that Mayer was encouraging them to protest against the war, igniting a furor that Mayer said she'd never before experienced in her 20-year teaching career.

Three days later, the girl’s father showed up to the school for a meeting with Mayer and principal Victoria Rogers. Mayer explained that she had simply explained to the children that there are two sides to the story. When the father asked if she had any children in the military, she told him her son had recently enlisted. But that only seemed to antagonize him even further.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Educators_face_blowback_for_protesting_war_0209.html
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