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Fri Feb-10-06 05:14 PM
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Has Brownie gotten closer to redemption in the last 48 hours. |
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He wasn't to bad today.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:16 PM
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1. He is probably same vain whiner he always was |
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but he has shown he isn't stupid ;)
Harriet should have paid his price, but I for one, am glad she didn't. He is hurting them bad.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:19 PM
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5. oh that's right, i forgot about the blackmail |
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:17 PM
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2. His lawyer gave them notice |
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It was a really classic shakedown: give us what we want and we won't rat you out with the truth.
The White House passed, so Brownie sang.
But, as with everything Fuckface, nothing will happen, no one will care, and that miserable prick will just walk away from all of it.
Meanwhile, the next hurricane season is - what? - three-and-one-half months away.
Beautiful, no?
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:17 PM
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3. No, he was still a self absorbed fuckup who cost a lot of folks |
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their lives. However, he's reluctant to be the fall guy for an administration full of even worse fuckups.
People died because he didn't care that much about doing his job. Part of his job was to go after his recalcitrant superiors, to go to the media, to realize the new FEMA protocols that treated a hurricane like a contagious disease were WRONG and throw them out, and to live on cheap hamburgers instead of taking hours for fine dining until the job was done properly.
This isn't redemption we're seeing here. It's just a family squabble played out in public.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:19 PM
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4. What about the emails about him having to go out to dinner? |
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When the FEMA guy in the Convention Center was emailing "where is the help" and people emailed that Brownie had to go out to dinner?
Has anyone mentioned that?
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:21 PM
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6. Could "HE" be the one that brings down the * administration? |
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By revealing their lies and hate for the poor!
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:23 PM
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10. Would that make you like him better? |
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He will always be a bastard to me, no matter who he brings down.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:33 PM
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I didn't expect your frog to move. Startled me to death. I damn near had a heart attack!
:wow:
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Fri Feb-10-06 07:06 PM
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37. By no means did I mean that him revealing "his" truth(s) would |
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that make him better. But if it could help bring light the truths the bullshit * admin. says, all the better.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:22 PM
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7. FUCK HIM. And anyone who celebrates him. |
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There is no redemption for him in the hearts and minds of those of us who live in Katrina's path.
While my family had no provisions, while parents came the firehouse asking me for ice for their kids' insulin and I couldn't help them, while elderly people sat alone in the heat with no water or food--while people DIED, Michael Brown pondered fashion and what he'd order at the Mexican restaurant that night.
Nothing that fuckhead ever says will change my opinion that he was an incompetent hired by an incompetent, and that the deaths of thousands of Mississippians and Louisianians rests firmly on his shoulders.
I hope to god DU isn't on the verge of celebrating Brown just because he might score a few jabs on Bush. Brown is still a fucking villain, and he certainly shouldn't be applauded by DUers who care about those of us who suffered because of his inaction during and after Katrina.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:24 PM
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:30 PM
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I stayed away from DU even weeks after we did get our power turned back on, because I couldn't bear to read message that said, "Cool! We can use Katrina to score points against Bush!" or "Yay! Those red states got what they deserved."
But now DUers are considering celebrating the most evil villain in the whole Katrina fiasco? OMG--I must have jumped ship to some alternate universe. I never saw this coming.
:hi:
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:37 PM
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22. Would you believe we still can't get trailers? |
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Folks over in Bayou LeBatre on the west side of Mobile Bay got hit hard. At last report some were still in tent campers. It's supposed to hit the 20s this week end.
Of course there's a large Vietnamese population there so they're used to hardship anyway. <sarcasm off>
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Fri Feb-10-06 06:53 PM
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I see trailers coming down I-55 all the time, and across on US 98. Yet so many people still need trailers.
Did you read the article a couple of months ago, when we got our first really cold snap, about the woman in Biloxi who had a miscarriage because she was living in a tent in freezing weather?
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:42 PM
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24. You're so right! What a crybaby he is. |
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Poor ole me...boo hoo...I'm a scapegoat. Goat? Hey! That reminds me...is he Chimpy's pet goat? Heh, heh.
I'm sorry you couldn't help those people, how very sad.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:49 PM
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The incompetence, callousness, and calculatedness which Brown and the administration all displayed during this tragedy made and makes my heart sick. I didn't trust him then and I don't trust him now. Not one freakin' bit.
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Sat Feb-11-06 12:22 AM
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And he was running FEMA so wouldn't he have been the one's that told Gore and WalMart to go away?
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:22 PM
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8. I wish someone would ask him " Do you sleep ok at night " just wondering. |
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Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 05:28 PM by Snotcicles
Or "have you been thinking lately what hell is going to be like?"
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:22 PM
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They put him in a job he was totally unqualified for, and when he screwed up, they pinned it all on him and washed their hands. All I can say is, with friends like that, who needs enemies.
I'm glad he's calling them on their actions, though it doesn't quite redeem him.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:26 PM
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12. "doesn't quite redeem him?" |
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What exactly would redeem a man whose self-absorption and complete disregard for human life cost Mississippi and Louisiana thousands of lives?
"doesn't quite redeem him?"
There will never be any redemption for him in my mind. He is a first-class opportunist who KNEW he was being appointed to a position for which he was ill-qualified, yet he took the job and the paycheck, and only "turned" when it became clear that he was going to have to answer for his inaction.
Fuck him.
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Fri Feb-10-06 06:01 PM
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27. Ok, that was an understatement! nt |
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:27 PM
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:27 PM
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Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 05:28 PM by DemonGoddess
when they were first mentioning his name as head of FEMA during all the Katrina aftermath, I was thinking to myself, this can't be the same person that was fired from IAHA. Sure enough, IT WAS. I'll tell ya, I was flabbergasted. Did not those idiots who hired him for FEMA not realize there was a REASON that his association was terminated by a horse show association? And what made it even worse in my eyes, is that, whatever he did or did not do for IAHA most CERTAINLY did NOT qualify him to head up FEMA. All the cronies, including THIS one, need to be punished for their roles in the overall ineptitude of this maladministration. Of course, the more they sing, the better for the rest of us. No this does NOT redeem his inaction during a terrible crisis.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:28 PM
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15. no, a lot of people died on his watch |
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and he could have screamed on TV that people were dying because the bush administration did nothing way back in sept. Instead of kissing bush's ass. He did a Heck of a job doing it too.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:29 PM
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Not one bit.
It's the human loss...not the political loss to the regime... that remains utmost in many people's minds.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:29 PM
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17. Brownie is as Brownie does |
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Nothing will wipe the blood off that man's hands other than a good long stint in prison.
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:33 PM
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20. Public opinion sez yes, at least that is what the Question of the Day |
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at MSNBC is scoring. Michael Brown's Katrina Story: Do you believe him? responses Yes 71%
No 29%
Vote Here
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:33 PM
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21. Yes, he was,... he was an arrogant, chortling ass... |
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Fri Feb-10-06 05:47 PM
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25. No, but "Oft Evil is By Evil Marred"... so to speak |
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In the absence of an MLK or a Bobby Kennedy, our best hope is to see the facade crumble from within of its own greed and selfishness.
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Fri Feb-10-06 06:01 PM
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He's still a scumbag, imo.
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Fri Feb-10-06 06:02 PM
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what he did do was finger the cabal, and that is good, but it doesn't absolve his malfeasance.
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Fri Feb-10-06 06:03 PM
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30. check out this thread - left a question or two about blivet** didn't he? |
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Fri Feb-10-06 06:05 PM
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31. READ THIS...and then YOU Decide... I thought Brownie did good UNTIL: |
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Fri Feb-10-06 06:12 PM
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33. That's a must-read article (response #31) from Koko01 |
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Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 06:14 PM by PBass
The Brownie story goes beyond just Katrina, it's another big thread in the lobbying/corruption scandals. Brown was placed at FEMA's head so he could help funnel contracts to Albaugh.
"Allbaugh's explanation of why he chose Brown as his heir apparent at FEMA baffles one and all.
The truth, RealNews has learned, is that the relationship between the two is a decades-long hidden partnership designed to advance both men's business and personal interests. By all appearances, that relationship encompassed Allbaugh's decision to ask Bush to let him run FEMA, and then his decision to turn the place over to Brown so he could profit from their ties."
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Fri Feb-10-06 06:13 PM
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I just posted that on another thread - from TomPaine
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Fri Feb-10-06 06:06 PM
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32. Not much redemption but some retribution wouldn't be bad. |
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Let them all eat each other, that'll please me...
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Fri Feb-10-06 06:17 PM
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he was a smug fuck for the parts i saw, Im waiting to watch it sully on cspan. I just saw his discourse with Sen Coleman and he was demanding to know what more the Sen thought he could do. HA! Are you fucking kidding me?
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Fri Feb-10-06 07:09 PM
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38. He still kiled more people than Osama - by criminal negligence |
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Fri Feb-10-06 07:10 PM
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39. No. He's just dragging the other dirtbags down with him. nt |
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Fri Feb-10-06 07:11 PM
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40. he should have been screaming from the rooftops when he saw what was |
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Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 07:11 PM by chimpsrsmarter
happening but he didn't. There will be no redemption for him, he knew the score and he could have gone to the media if he really cared but he didn't.
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Fri Feb-10-06 11:30 PM
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41. Maybe he should canoe up the Amazon to a group of Kiyapo and |
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Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 11:32 PM by applegrove
in the rain - cry for their forgiveness? Bring his WH friends with him.
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Sat Feb-11-06 12:17 AM
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42. Naw, he's still a miserable piece of shit |
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Sat Feb-11-06 12:19 AM
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43. What I think is today |
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he was warning the Bushies. If they don't help him anytime soon he'll probably slowly keep spilling the beans. It seems he keeps trying to push them until they snap but they don't seem to be budging. I hope not so he can spill the whole beans!
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Sat Feb-11-06 12:21 AM
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44. the scape goat is bleating against the hot bush wind |
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