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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:13 PM
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Why do most folks on DU assume the US is the only one who would...
...benefit from the Danish cartoon controversy?

It would seem to me that Islamic extremists would get a lot of propaganda value out of it, too.

The weird timing works for both sides, too - Bush wants to invade Iran, and Iran wants to stop him and protest being referred to the UN Security Council. Why are we only considering one possibility as to what might be behind this?

Right wingers published the cartoons as an anti-immigrant protest, but they didn't hand carry fakes to the ME to get everyone all riled up. And even if they had, what Islamic extremist in their right might would listen to a right winger setup to invade Iran?

I guess I don't understand the adamant insistence that it has to be a US plot.

Thoughts?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:15 PM
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1. I must not be most folks
because you sound right.

Actually the best conspiracy theory I heard is that the cartoons were publicized to take the heat off the Saudis for some an accident at the Haji that resulted in hundreds of deaths.

Odd the way the cartoons were unnoticed for months ...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:16 PM
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2. "Islamic extremist" has a lot of overlap with "Islamic nationalist"
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:16 PM
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3. A Paranoia Group might give certain members here
a place to share their interests
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:19 PM
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6. Just as a Short Attention Span Group might help some members
remember who is in office.

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:25 PM
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10. I'm going to forgive that snark
because of your cute picture of Andy :thumbsup:
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:17 PM
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4. I don't think it is a plot
However, if Cheney/Bush thought it would help them, I'm sure they would do whatever they could to "maximize" that.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:17 PM
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5. Whose timetable is in play here? n/t
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:23 PM
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7. The timing fits both sides perfectly.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:28 PM
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12. How do you know there are two sides?
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 08:32 PM by sfexpat2000
(Slaps forehead)

On edit: Are you trying to tell me that there are mullahs trying to get the UN to sanction the United States? The equivalency you argue is simply silly.
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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:45 PM
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15. No, I'm saying that certain players in the ME have a vested interest...
...in indirectly protesting Iran's referral to the Security Council.

Many Muslims HATE Bush. Why would they do what he wants them to?

Note that I'm not saying Bush isn't responsible, just that it could be ME interests as well, and at this point we don't really know who's behind it.

How do you know that there AREN'T two sides?
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colorado thinker Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:24 PM
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8. Follow the money . .
Is someone benefiting financially?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:24 PM
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9. The chances of it
being a US plot are zero.
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Roho Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:29 PM
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13. Any chance you could expand on that thought?
I would like to read your thoughts
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Roho Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:27 PM
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11. Thoughts?
sure. This is yet another broad brush post claiming a lockstep approach to an issue without a single reference like to show your not just making this up.

You remind me of a conservative guy that used to post on rabble.ca. All he would ever do is start threads with topics he hoped the google bot would visit and archive the topic. Anyone googling the subject would think it had progressive support because they found it on rabble.

I think it must be your username that reminds me.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:34 PM
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14. I don't think there's any conspiracy surrounding the cartoons
It's merely a case of fundy Arab/Muslims wanting to control everyone else's press, while their own is highly insulting of Hindus and Jews. However, this will not benefit Muslims, as it makes their reaction look like a caricature. I have one question tho, why don't they protest like this against the occupation of Iraq by the United States?
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:48 PM
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16. I don't understand your confusion on this issue
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:59 PM
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17. What I do understand is
That Muslim newspapers routinely publish cartoons which disparage Jews, disparage Hindus, disparage Hindu gods and goddesses but they're asking for everyone else not to publish cartoons against their religion.

I also don't understand why Arabs/Muslims get a special treatment. Everyone else can be ridiculed via cartoons but somehow Arabs/Muslims must be an exception.

Lastly, if we're going to set precedent of censorship of cartoons directed against Arabs/Muslims and their religion, we'd better get ready for censorship of cartoons against Christians and Christianity, Bush, Cheney, etc. The same people asking for censorship of all cartoons against Arabs/Muslims would not want their chance to attack Bush, Cheney, Christians, etc. denied.

Why are some people joining the Arabs/Muslims in censoring the Danish press?
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