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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:08 AM
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NY Times now carrying Pillar's expose of Bush's "cherry picking"
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 12:09 AM by understandinglife
Ex-C.I.A. Official Says Iraq Data Was Distorted

By SCOTT SHANE

WASHINGTON, Feb. 10 — A C.I.A. veteran who oversaw intelligence assessments about the Middle East from 2000 to 2005 on Friday accused the Bush administration of ignoring or distorting the prewar evidence on a broad range of issues related to Iraq in its effort to justify the American invasion of 2003.

The views of Paul R. Pillar, who retired in October as national intelligence officer for the Near East and South Asia, echoed previous criticism from Democrats and from some administration officials, including Richard A. Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism adviser, and Paul H. O'Neill, the former treasury secretary.

But Mr. Pillar is the first high-level C.I.A. insider to speak out by name on the use of prewar intelligence. His article for the March-April issue of Foreign Affairs, which charges the administration with the selective use of intelligence about Iraq's unconventional weapons and the chances of postwar chaos in Iraq, was posted Friday on the journal's Web site after it was reported in The Washington Post.

"If the entire body of official intelligence on Iraq had a policy implication, it was to avoid war — or, if war was going to be launched, to prepare for a messy aftermath," Mr. Pillar wrote. "What is most remarkable about prewar U.S. intelligence on Iraq is not that it got things wrong and thereby misled policymakers; it is that it played so small a role in one of the most important U.S. policy decisions in decades."

More at the link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/11/international/middleeast/11intel.html?_r=1&ei=5094&en=37bd9f4bac0b99c0&hp=&ex=1139634000&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&partner=homepage&adxnnlx=1139634223-IB2wGuN8ZLeERSUJWMLUXA


This story is not going away and America's # 1 terrorist, G W Bush, has no where to hide.


Peace.

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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:30 AM
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1. Excellent! Thanks so much for posting. I heard him interviewed
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 12:31 AM by WiseButAngrySara
today (with Wolfman Blitzkrieg) and he was quite impressive. I'm so glad that he retired when he did, but too bad it wasn't sooner, or that he had more courage to speak out earlier.

:kick: and R!
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 01:15 AM
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2. Oh, you guys will believe anybody. Clarke, Wilkerson, and now
Pillar.

Why believe these guys over a Bush?

:sarcasm:

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 02:24 AM
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3. LOL!! Thanks ...
Peace.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 07:48 AM
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4. kick! BUSH LIED, AMERICANS DIED.
As did 285,000+ other innocent human beings.

bush is still lying; people are still dying.
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 08:05 AM
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5. MSM is finally beginning to report
The fact that this has gotten some air time is also interesting. Is it possible we are seeing a glimmer of hope that we might start to see some truth? If we don't see the swift-boat campaign within the next few days, perhaps we have a chance.
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exlrrp Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:52 AM
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8. You mean slim chance or NO chance?
"If we don't see the swift-boat campaign within the next few days, perhaps we have a chance."
Yes, somewhere between a slim chance and NO chance to even ruffle the feathers of Bushco. Youre asuming there is still something or somebody in this world that can or will do something effective about this latest outrage. Disabuse yourself of this notion, that was back in the Clinton Days.
They have other tactical arrows in their quiver besides swiftboating, oh yes, like buck passing, the Blame Game, Stonewalling.
I think this will be stonewalled for a few days untill the media chases another Runaway Bride. then it will all go away.
bet the farm on it: Theyve done this so many times now its routine.
Don't forget if it happens you read it here first
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:52 PM
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9. Hi exlrrp!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 08:26 AM
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6. a lot are watching the Olympics
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 08:28 AM by DemReadingDU
they will be watching more sports than news this week

edit for clarity
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:09 AM
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7. How America is viewed around the world
To us, they are the terrorists. They are the ones who must be stopped. But to other people, we must look like the terrorists. Who are we to force our way into their cultures and tell them they are wrong?

I don't ever agree that abuse, torture, or the like are acceptable in any country, but look how many deaths have been caused in Iraq since we invaded. To many Iraqi people, Americans must look just as bad as Saddam Hussein did.

Who says we are right and they are wrong?
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