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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 07:16 AM
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I'm SICK of the religious right's war against gays!!!!
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 07:24 AM by theHandpuppet
Damn, why don't they require that we all wear pink triangles on our clothes so it will be easier to spot us for the roundup to "reducation" camps?

From today's Cincinnati Enquirer http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060211/NEWS01/602110343

Bill targets gay adoption
Critics of conservatives' move say it's unconstitutional
BY JON CRAIG | ENQUIRER COLUMBUS BUREAU


COLUMBUS - Gays, bisexuals and anyone who's undergone a sex change would be banned from adopting or raising foster children under a bill introduced this week and backed by two Southwest Ohio legislators.

House Bill 515, introduced Thursday, bars any adoptive or foster child from being placed in the private residence "of a homosexual, bisexual, or transgender person."

Florida is the only state with such a ban.

The U.S. Census counts more than 3,600 homes headed by unmarried couples of the same sex in Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky, including Kelly and Teresa Robinson, a lesbian couple from Anderson Township. The Robinsons have three daughters and two foster children.

"What are they thinking?" Teresa, 43, said just before getting their oldest daughter, Eryn, 10, ready for a dance Friday night at Sherwood Elementary School. "There are no studies whatsoever saying that a child benefits greater being in a gay home or a straight home... "

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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 07:19 AM
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1. the tattos are just around the corner
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 07:21 AM
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2. When you've kicked the few Gay people out of your small town...
...it's easy to be openly homophobic.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 07:22 AM
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3. Where does it end??
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 07:23 AM by theHandpuppet
Tom Brinkman, a co-signer of this bill, also filed a lawsuit against Miami University (OH) to deny same-sex partners' benefits. My longtime partner and I lost our domestic partner health benefits in Virginia just last year because of laws like this. I'M SICK OF THIS SHIT!!!!!!

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/200...

Brinkman sues over gays
At Miami U, many heckle, others applaud state lawmaker's lawsuit to reverse policy; he says it's a form of gay marriage
BY LORI KURTZMAN | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

OXFORD - If Rep. Tom Brinkman Jr. wins his lawsuit against Miami University, Jes Fowler worries she won't be able to afford her prescription medication. Stephen Sauer fears he'll be forced to stop working toward his college degree. Assistant professor Lisa Poirer thinks she'll quit her job, and so does Dan Meyers, who's worked at Miami since 1998.

That's because Brinkman's suit challenges Miami's same-sex benefits policy, and Miami employees Poirer and Meyers - along with Fowler and Sauer, their partners - say they need those benefits.

"I'll have to leave my job," Poirer said. "I won't have any choice."

But to Brinkman, this isn't about denying benefits to same-sex couples. He said as much during a contentious forum Monday night at Miami, where he was applauded but more often heckled during a discussion of the suit he filed in November in Butler County Common Pleas Court....

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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 07:22 AM
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4. These stupid assholes.
I'm not gay, but I have friends who are better parents than I could ever hope to be, legislation or no. These republiCON dipshits need to be controlled. Perhaps some sort of Orkin like service?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:18 AM
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15. I'm not gay either but this is wrong on so many levels
Damned bigots.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 07:23 AM
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5. Two points:
One of the co-sponsors of the bill is Danny Bubp. Remember him -- the one who provided Mean Jean Schmidt with the anti-Murtha quote "Cowards cut and run. Marines never do"?

And the big irony is that many of these kids are foster kids in the first place precisely because they had shitty STRAIGHT parents to begin with.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 07:26 AM
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6. the trains are gonna roll up to the station
any time now.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 07:47 AM
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7. I'm sick of their religious war against ME
I'm a leftist, a feminist, an ACLU member, a Buddhist, an atheist, a vegetarian, and a happy divorcee. All of those things deeply threaten those morons. I'm sick to death of hearing how horribly wrong I am to be these things, and how I'm going to a volcanic hell.

I'm sick to death of being pushed around by these bullies, and I'm starting to push back. Anybody want to join me in pointing out how UNCHRISTIAN they are?
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 08:20 AM
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9. At least they aren't going to take away your children
Or deny you from marrying, or rip away your health care benefits, or tell you you're not fit to make decisions for your partner in a life-threatening crisis, or fire you from your job etc etc for being vegan or a divorcee.

Sorry, I'm truly not trying to make light of your own anger but I'm also a leftist, feminist, card-carrying ACLU member -- yet there is nothing like being gay in this country right now to see what power the RW really has over your life.... OUR VERY LIVES are being threatened by the stupidity of "lawmakers" across the country. I could care less if these morons think I'm going to their fantasy version of some everlasting hell because they're so busy making this world hell on earth for gay folks RIGHT NOW, in real time with real laws that destroy our families. So busy spreading such hatred that you don't know when and if you're going to be the next target of some hatchet-wielding nutjob or the target of some new law that will take your kids away tomorrow.

But you're right in one crucial sense -- it may be us today but it's going to be the rest of you tomorrow. REMEMBER.

In Germany they first came for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me —
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

Rev. Martin Niemoller was protected until 1937 by both the foreign press and influential friends in the up-scale Berlin suburb where he preached. Eventually, he was arrested for treason. Perhaps due to foreign pressure, he was found guilty, but initially given only a suspended sentence. He was however then almost immediately re-arrested on Hitler’s direct orders. From then on until the end of WW II, he was held at the Sachsenhausen and Dachau concentration camps. Near the end of the war, he narrowly escaped execution.

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mindem Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 08:03 AM
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8. These people are really over the top
As far as I am concerned the religious right needs a major slap down. You keep hearing "we're a Christian Nation" all while this is going on in the back ground. Check this out

http://splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=591

scary stuff.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:30 AM
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10. Disgusting
I don't understand why bans such as this don't violate people's civil rights. Gay and lesbian couples are just like any other couples who want to open their homes and hearts to children who need them. We read stories of horrific child abuse, very often by a woman's boyfriend, or the child's stepfather, and in the face of that we don't want to let gay couples have foster children or adopt?

How many instances of child abuse have you ever heard of committed by gays? I don't remember ever hearing about a single one, but abused, often to the point of death, children, at the hands of their mother's husbands or boyfriends is almost an everyday thing.

I hope the day will come when America will be enlightened enough to realize that like skin color, sexual preference is something people are born with, and that we can't continue to discriminate against our fellow humans just because some pissy fundies disapprove of them. The fundies are the ones who have the problem, not the gay community.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:20 AM
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11. this is a moronic policy based solely on bigotry and hatred . . .
what these fuckwads don't understand is that gays often take in kids that "God-fearing" straight households want nothing to do with -- AIDS babies, handicapped kids, difficult teens, etc. . . all this kind of shit does is make life more miserable for some of our most needy kids, as well as for gays and lesbians . . . stupid, stupid, stupid -- and just plain wrong . . .
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:29 AM
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12. All MN Catholic Dioceses have a postcard drive this weekend
For our proposed Constitutional Ammendment. They are way over the line, but the hierarchy is getting behing the Repubs already. :puke:
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cfield Donating Member (648 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:56 AM
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13. This is bullshit!
It's the same as if a gay couple has a child and one parent dies; they want the child taken from the surviving parent. Why?!? In a straight relationship, no one tries taking a child from a single mother or father; what's the fucking difference?!????

What happens if a single straight woman adopts a child then many years later decides to come out and declare her homosexuality? Take away the 10 or 11 year old from the only mother they've ever known? How about if the kid is 30 or 40; do we force them to sign a waiver stating their mother was never their mother because she's suddenly gay?
And if not, then why not let that gay woman adopt without hiding or being afraid to reveal her sexual preferance? It's bullshit! Fuck you Ohio and Florida and the rest of America that thinks this is okay. FUCK YOU!










Sorry, it's been a rough morning at work and this was the last straw. I feel better now...sort of.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:15 AM
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14. whenever i visit you-know-where "homosexualagenda" is almost
always one of the popular keywords on the top right. Righties are obsessed with it. It's weird.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:22 AM
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16. It never occured to me that
I would leave OH and live in NC and find a place more tolerent of gays by doing so. I am so ashamed of my former home state. It makes me sick. Ohio is the titanic and all these people can do is argue over how the deck chairs are arranged. Ohioans have been failed by their leaders but sadly they vote to return them to power anyway.
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:43 AM
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17. How will they know if someone is transgendered?
A male to female transsexual, for example, can legally marry a man after her operation is complete and her sex is legally changed. I think transgendered people can even have new birth certificates issued. The only way to detect a person's original sex would be with a DNA test, and that would be too costly to order for every prospective adoption.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:02 PM
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21. It's A Bullshit Law Only Being Done To Exite The Base In An Election Year
how will they identify transgender
or bisexuals
or homosexuals?


NSA wiretapping?
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:47 AM
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18. This bill should be amended to include
preventing any child from being placed in a home where the parents are members of politically active "religious" cults and an additional amendment authorizing the cutting off of male peepees if they have ever produced a child out of wedlock.

This is the point where every real American needs to stand up and demand that our rights are inalienable whether they agree with the dictatorial decrees in biblical verses or not. This is EVERYONE's battle - not just the gays. Allowing laws like this to pass means that it will be only a matter of time before they will use the precedent to remove your OWN children from your home.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:53 AM
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19. If this bill was about taking Iraqi children from their parents
you might have a chance to stir up some outrage around here.

But it's about American gays and lesbians. Very few here give a shit about their rights.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:00 PM
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20. How Will They Identify These Households?
House to house searches to see who lives there?

wiretapping to see if they call gay people on the phone?

surveillance of "suspects" to see if they are bisexual?

This is such a bunch of tripe!

This is pandering to their base of homophobes in a way that only harms children who are living in loving households where they actually might have two parents to care for them.

So much for children that are born, where are their rights?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 01:09 PM
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22. I'm sick of the war
on public education;
on the environment;
on civil liberties;
on the constitution and bill of rights;
on intellect;
on honesty and integrity;
on peace;
on empathy;
on public services;
on the poor;


I could go on. Is there anything good left in the world that the right wing isn't at war against?
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