Watch British Soldiers Beating Iraqi Youngsters

[Twist_U_Up]

http://astream.com/links/notw/together_300.asx

News story here

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/

[Viva_La_Revolution]

1. no thanks on the offer

just knowing it's happening is enough for me. No need to watch! :mad:

[Twist_U_Up]

2. there is a news story so you dont have to watch

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/

[entanglement]

3. Shameful!

[daveskilt]

4. this is a few bad apples - abu ghraib is not

in war some stupid soldiers will do this. but they don't pack hoods, and torture equipment and then all act in the same systematic way in multiple places without orders to do it.

I have a friend in the air force - he flew people from abu ghraib to the US new torure location in kurdish controlled mosul.
When the detainees found out where they were going they had to be chained to the plane and some of them lost control of their bowels.


on edit: the brit guys still need court martieled. the US court martials just need to go higher - bush and rummy eg

[Twist_U_Up]

5. Is there any doubt why we are hated now ?

This is spreading Democracy ? Am I in bizarro world ?

[FreedomAngel82]

6. Oh gosh

I can't watch. :cry: I remember seeing a video of a soldier driving around in Iraq and some little kids threw rocks at them and this soldier cussed them out and said they would like to shoot the kids and threatned not to give them food etc. :cry:

[Twist_U_Up]

9. This is much worse.

these troops pulled unarmed kids behind a protective wall and pummeled them viciously.

Give me 5 mins with each of these punks

naaa actually I'll only need a few secs for each.

[951-Riverside]

7. Lets see if this gets the same outcry as the muslim cartoons.

[tocqueville]

8. looks to me like an ordinary "riot beating" from soldiers or cops

that lose their temper. I've seen far worse from some US cops beating black suspects or even European cops beating white rioters. They guy that got the most is obviously the one that didn't want to sit down and be handcuffed.

It should be of course punished and is not acceptable. But I agree with you that it has nothing to do with systematic torture.

[Twist_U_Up]

11. Huh ?

did you not hear the guy on the tape ? He knew what was going to happen before they got behind the wall.
The kid didn't want to sit down ? Didn't look to me like they gave him much of a choice.

If you think that this wasn't planned or something that hasn't been practiced before ,you might want to read the news report on the other link.

[951-Riverside]

12. Bastards had it coming I think I saw them reaching for something too!!!

:sarcasm:

[Twist_U_Up]

14. Well the group did hurl a grenade and rocks inside the compound

but your going to have that when your occupying someone else's land.

[tocqueville]

16. I condemn it and it happened probably before

but it has nothing to do with sodomizing kids with brooms, drowning people in a tub... etc...

it's "ordinary" police violence in a tense situation. With frustrated soldiers. What I think is positive is that the Brits take it up. It's going to be intresting to see what punishment the Brits are going to deal with...

But I agree with daveskilt, this is not Abu Grahib, which BTW is the lite version of what is happening in other places.

[Erika]

15. But this video is of an occupying "liberating" force

Doesn't say much for the liberation of a foreign country, does it?

[tocqueville]

17. the point is not there

it's the degree of violence which is the point. Far worse have been done to completely pacific protestors during the 60s both by cops and National Guard. Some were even shot to death. In their own country.

By today's standards the violence on the video is unacceptable. But in the British case I see it more as the result of frustration by some individuals than the pattern of systematic violence against civilians in US controlled areas.

[BeHereNow]

10. Good lord, I think I am going to be sick.

Fuck them all.
Each and every one.
The voice over of the person with the camera
makes me violently ill.
BHN

[Erika]

13. Yes

No wonder the West is so hated. We say one thing and do the opposite. Trademark of W/Blair.

[Twist_U_Up]

18. morning kick nt

[951-Riverside]

19. evening kick nt