Is Communism still an ENEMY form of government?

[Deja Q]

Witness:

* China is a big-ass Communist nation. We freely deal with them as if they're great friends; have been since 1973.
* Vietnam: Definitely communist. We offshore there too and that's about to include IT-related work as well. (So why did we fight there in the first place again? Someone said it was to to fight the spread of communism, but that seems an outright lie... at least in retrospect.)
* North Korea (gee, why can't we offsbore there? They prefer not to play games? No wonder they're a threat.)
* Laos (who? But if this site has even a smidgen of info about Laos...)
* Cuba (Looks like they may not be "enemies" for much longer too)
* India (The country could be Communist by 2009)

* And I won't forget Poland!!


So, why are we "spreading Democracy" then? And wouldn't this be a mistake because those we'd give it to may in turn choose to hate us instead of being told to do so by their respective (yet unrespectable) governments?

[baldguy]

1. Yes. Unless they have a lot of money, of course.

[Cassandra]

2. Only when the repukes can pretend that Democrats are ...

communists. The real communists they apparently have no problem with.

[sattahipdeep]

3. China, which has 110 million internet users - second only to the US -

On February 15, the US House of Representatives'
committee on international relations will hold a hearing on the
ethical responsibilities of companies doing business in China.

Last December, Microsoft came under fire for closing down
the MSN Spaces site of one of China's most influential
bloggers, Michael Anti.

Earlier this month, Google was widely condemned for
voluntarily filtering out information that it believed the
government would not approve of, in order to get permission
to base its servers in China.

Reporters Without Borders called on Yahoo! to release a list
of all cyber-dissidents whose personal information it has
handed to the Chinese authorities. "How many more cases
are we going to find?" the Paris-based group said in a statement.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/story/0,,1706735,00.html

Three online cigarette retailers recently sent to the Department of Revenue
the names of hundreds of people who bought untaxed cigarettes in April.

The three Internet sellers gave the names to the state under a federal law called the Jenkins Act.

estimates the state loses $7 million to $10 million a year in revenue to online cigarette sales.

http://www.no-smoking.org/may05/05-19-05-5.html

[rman]

7. Some claim China has more internet users then the US

Also that Bush has created more jobs and more wealth for the Chinese then for Americans - in effect making China more American then America.

"Ha Ha Ha America"
sundance film festival
http://festival.sundance.org/2006/watch/film.aspx?which=402&category=DOC

[Nomen Tuum]

4. Replace MARX with JESUS and what do you get? US!

A state that only KKKristian ReKKKonstruKKKtionists would love--the The Conservative Christian Commonwealth of Pentecostals, CCCP (sounds familiar, folks????), which we have become thanks to the Nazi Party!

[KharmaTrain]

5. Are The Repugnicans Ready To Give Up SSI Yet?

Or unemployment? Or Medicare? Hell no! The corporations sure don't...it's such easy money and the pickin's have never been easier.

The term "communism" in the case of the Soviet Union and it's allied regimes has been such a misnomer. It surely wasn't socialist when the masses ended up queing up for toilet paper...or, in the Chinese case, when wholescale capitalism (controlled by the state) is embraced as a perverted socialism. One day the Chinese will reconcile this conflict.

One of the greatest things I was taught was when a teacher wrote the word "Nationalism" on the board and asked us to define it. He flunked everyone in the class and then spent the next 4 weeks going through the conflict of cultures and history that underlie every international conflict. Labels are only for those who need simple pictures drawn.

[LynnTheDem]

6. LAST thing US gov wants is "democracy" in the world.

The majority of citizens in places such as the ME hate us. Now if they had a REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT...gee, those govts would hate us.

Which is why the US supports dictators...as long as they're US-friendly dictators.

The entire world knows all about America's utter hypocrisy on this...it's just rightwingnuts who are simply unable figure it out.

[Deja Q]

10. Funny thing, that "circular logic".

[sattahipdeep]

11. @=%=$$=%=@

:hi:

[Eugene]

8. It's all about free trade and cheap labor.

Conservatives are happy as long as there is the free flow of goods and capital
and governments don't do crazy things like land reform or "wasting" money
on social welfare. Business friendly Viet Nam is good.
Pro-reform Venzuela is bad.

[Solon]

9. True, the US doesn't care what the domestic policies of a government...

is, as long as it doesn't interefere with American Business and trade. Hence why Castro is still vilified, and China is seen as almost a paragon of Capitalistic virtue.

[Deja Q]

14. Bingo. And free flow of goods from where to where, again?

And making it so the workers can't afford it, there is no real point to MAKE them at all; for mass production is what makes things profitable and there's a point where even the elite will say "No sale".

[Jara sang]

12. Yeah, and South America is turning Socialist.

I guess they aren't addressing that now so they'll have an enemy in 20 years.

[Ethan M Gaits]

13. The threat of communism is a bigger threat than communism.