Now they are bashing Dems for NOT speaking up during Wiretap briefings

[spanone]

Can you believe this shit? So now, it's the Dems fault for Bush* breaking the wiretap laws because they didn't speak up at briefings. First of all, the law would not allow them to 'speak up' about it. Jesus, this shit will never end.

[babylonsister]

1. Weren't the few Dems in the loop, like Rockefeller, sworn to

secrecy? They can't have it both ways. :eyes:

[spanone]

3. Of course they were, If they had spoken they would have been in violation

of law....just as bush* was.

[bahrbearian]

2. Did you take your memory pill today?

[spanone]

8. Now I get it. Pat Roberts is QUITE THE SMART-ASS.

Pulled out a prescription bottle and told Daschle to take a memory pill. Fuck you Roberts.

[Wheezy]

4. I believe you are talking about MTP, where

Rep Pete Hoekstra and Sen Roberts looked like idiots, correct? (I used to babysit Pete's kids...eep!)

I would have liked to see Daschle and Harmon say we should STOP the illegal wiretapping instead of so emphatically saying we should keep doing it but change the law to include it. Hello, dems? First the Patriot Act, now this -- please protect our constitutional rights already.

[Sydnie]

5. There are no words for the porking that Roberts is doing

to the American people right now on MTP. I am ashamed of all of them.

[leftchick]

6. he is disgusting, a waste of airspace

:puke:

[spanone]

7. If Bush* can ignore FISA law, he can ignore ANY law,

That's how precedent works. If he wins this battle, we LOSE the war.

[leftchick]

11. shit we lost a long time ago.

its the fucking mafia in charge now and we have no Elliot Ness. :(

[acmejack]

9. Roberts lost all my respect since he lied about phase two of 9/11

Remember he publicly stated that after the election there would be a in depth investigation into who was responsible, but he then never held those investigations. He is a puke of the first order.

[Sydnie]

12. Reid closed down the Senate to demand an update on that

and he said it would be happening within two weeks and it STILL isn't.

[babylonsister]

14. I'm more outraged by the Dems for not hammering on this!

Where's the anger? Why don't they bring this up loudly at every opportunity? I don't get their reasoning. :banghead:

[Sydnie]

16. If you go by what they are saying today it appears to be

because they AGREE with what blivet** is doing!

[babylonsister]

20. That's the WORST news I've had all week. I didn't watch

MTP; it's up next, but so is This Week. I'll forego Roberts' as I can't stomach him.
How can they agree if they don't have all the necessary info they requested? Mind-boggling. :crazy:

[The Backlash Cometh]

24. They just had one Dem say that we shouldn't make an issue out of it

until we could prove that we understood national security?

I think this is where the leadership problem in the Dem party begins to kick in.

[babylonsister]

25. What the hell are they afraid of? This war is a monumental flop;

I wish they'd recognize that loudly and often. What's stopping them?

[Marleyb]

26. There is no excuse!

The democrats are in on it or they are being blackmailed.

If they are being blackmailed they would know that everyone else was being blackmailed as well so if they all just stand up together and speak the truth we will forgive them.

But if they are in on it, looks like we are going to have to arrest Bush ourselves, like the post on the greatest page yesterday.

After we take care of the republicans, we go after the democrats. We cannot let them get away with the pretense any longer. I want a real democracy dammit! The kind I thought we had when I was a kid.

[mzmolly]

30. Actually only 8 knew, and it was against the LAW for them to disclose

this information.

Democrats generally obey the law.

[kayice]

15. Roberts disgusts me, the voters of Kansas need to wake up...

and wonder why he won't look at the camera on local tv or has to run to K-State ass-kissing B*sh the whole time. Gawd! Brownback is acting better this twit. (slap my hands)

[Cocoa]

10. Rockefeller letter

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/rock-cheney2.html



http://mediamatters.org/items/200602060010

I am writing to reiterate my concern regarding the sensitive intelligence issues we discussed today with the DCI , DIRNSA , and Chairman Roberts and our House Intelligence Committee counterparts.

Clearly the activities we discussed raise profound oversight issues. As you know, I am neither a technician nor an attorney. Given the security restrictions associated with this information, and my inability to consult staff or counsel on my own, I feel unable to fully evaluate, much less endorse these activities.

As I reflected on the meeting today, and the future we face, John Poindexter's TIA project sprung to mind, exacerbating my concern regarding the direction the Administration is moving with regard to security, technology, and surveillance.

Without more information and the ability to draw on any independent legal or technical expertise, I simply cannot satisfy lingering concerns raised by the briefing we received.

Rockefeller added: "I am retaining a copy of this letter in a sealed envelope in the secure spaces of the Senate Intelligence Committee to ensure that I have a record of this communication."

[Sydnie]

13. Glad Daschle brought up Cheney authorizing leaks since they

appear to be more upset about the leaks about this program than the breaking of the FISA law.

[Arkansas Granny]

21. I also appreciated Senator Harmon pointing out that the leak

about the NSA spying didn't come from Congress, it came from the administration.

[spanone]

17. Pat Roberts is a Cheap Suit. A turd of a congressman.

Shill.

[Sydnie]

18. "Moving the goal post and keep adding in more information"

Roberts is unbelieveable! Isn't that the point of an investigation, to add info to the mix? :banghead:

yeah, three parts of phase two will be ready in a few weeks .... when did we hear that last?

[tinfoilinfor2005]

19. And now they are talking about oversight

and Hoekstra saying how important oversight is to him. Mentioned repub leaders in congress who were heading up oversight committees. Hahahaha. The foxes guarding the hen house.

[The Backlash Cometh]

22. Only the Big 8 knew about.

Rockefeller wrote a letter in his own handwriting, but I guess that doesn't count. Of course, the Big 8 would have been penalized had they leaked the information, so you have a circular argument taking place.

[Twist_U_Up]

23. Everybody knows Bush broke the law. nt

[radio4progressives]

27. actually, i have the same critisim. and that's why our party keeps losing

in public opinion polls.

the dems SHOULD have spoken up, and Jane Harmann is a fucking idiot for her stupidity in all of this - Rockefeller is worse than a jerk for not speaking up. It's an honest critism, but that's not a reason to not deal with the issue now and lock these bastards up in the white house/nsa/pentagon for high crimes and misdemanors now.

[spanone]

29. It was AGAINST THE LAW to speak about it.

Maybe the crime is that the Democrats actually OBEY THE LAW.

[Cocoa]

31. link?

to a poll showing the dems losing?

[Dr. Jones]

28. Sneaky repugs put the dems in a box on this one.

If the Dems expressed concern for civil liberties and spoke out about it, they would have been breaking several criminal statutes regarding national security and leaking classified information. If this whole plan was exposed and the Dems cried foul, the repugs likely planned to blame the Dems for not voicing their concern at the infringement of civil liberties in the first place.

[mzmolly]

32. Yes, and only 8 dems even knew about it.

:crazy:

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