ThomWV
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Sun Feb-12-06 11:55 AM
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OK - This Is Simple - Amend The FISA Law |
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The congress could do this tomorrow by noon if they wanted to.
Make changes to the FISA law; change the 72 hour (3 day) retroactive application for a warrant to something greater, let us say, 1,000 hours (about a month and a half) and then demand compliance to the amended law, without exception. Put into the law (again and more forcefully) the statement that no authority trumps this law. Finally, go back and prosecute anyone who violated the old law during the time it was applicable. How hard is that?
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Sun Feb-12-06 11:55 AM
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1. The law was ALREADY broken. |
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Sun Feb-12-06 11:56 AM
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2. And insert a provision that information obtained by data mine |
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sweeping is destroyed promptly in a verifiable way.
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Sun Feb-12-06 11:57 AM
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3. I want them to pay for breaking the law in the first place. nt |
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Sun Feb-12-06 11:59 AM
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4. fuck that - it's been done over and over and over again. |
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the fisa law doesn't need anymore diddling with - our civil liberties don't need any further stripping - i'm so fucking sick of the kool aid drinking swill pushed forward as intelligent policies which are on it's face anathema to our constitution and our civil liberties.
what the fuck is wrong people????
is it a hatred our "freedoms" to the extent of favoring big brother gestapo for the notion of being "safe" from the bogeyman that only really exist in propaganda?
good gawwwwd aawww mighty.
beam me up scotty, both parties are destroying america.
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Sun Feb-12-06 12:01 PM
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5. Curious--the Pukkkes insist they don't need that-- |
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2 possibilities--they are stalling to bolster they're stupid "Prez is God" legal theory
or they DON't want to wind up in cort or congress where they would have to reveal what they have already been doing. To quote them because they are sure those entitities will discover what they are doing is unconstitutional, and they don't want that check on their behavior.
But they won't say it publically.
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Sun Feb-12-06 12:01 PM
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6. The Repukes would ignore the reformed FISA law |
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Sun Feb-12-06 12:10 PM
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7. You don't understand that the NSA spying was only |
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The tip of the iceberg. They have been caught in their fascist acts, and nobody has fully examined how far they went with the NSA. Stonewall and delay the NSA spying crimes, which prevents attention from being focused on what other crimes have been committed against the country and people. There is more there than just the NSA spying on American citizens in this country.
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Sun Feb-12-06 12:13 PM
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8. It is not about the law itself. It is *'s assertion of absolute power and |
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encompasses not only FISA but other legislation he choses to ignore such as the McCain torture bill.
Gonzales also explicitly said during the hearing, he will only comment on what * has already blurted out, and is not going into other methods currently being used. Who can assure us that those other methods are abiding the laws of the country?
The pandora's box was opened and it has to be fully investigated first.
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Sun Feb-12-06 12:15 PM
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9. No, the Republican majority really does not want to do that |
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there could be a Democratic President in the future and they do not want to give him that same authority.
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Sun Feb-12-06 12:16 PM
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Has the administration demonstrated any need to expand the 72 hour window? They haven't even made that argument. They haven't asked for any changes at all. Their claim is quite simply that the law does not apply to them. Any move by Congress to weaken FISA regulations is simply caving in to the administration.
I'm all for the "prosecute anyone who violated the old law" part though. The prosecution should start with the impeachment of the executive branch. Once the impeachment is completed with a conviction, we can move on to actual criminal prosecution.
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Sun Feb-12-06 12:23 PM
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11. You don't change laws accomodate criminals |
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Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 12:24 PM by pat_k
When a CEO is embezzling and refuses to stop when caught, the board of directors and law enforcement do not shrug their shoulders, and try to change the law to make the embezzlement legal. No way; no how. They accuse the CEO, remove him from power, and put him on trial. And when found guilty, they punish him.
The whole notion that we should just politely ask Bush to stop his criminal activity, and then, when he refuses, change the law to make his crimes legal is crap.
Bush is breaking the law. He must be accused (Impeached), tried, and removed from office. Demanding Impeachment is the option available to any leader with a scintilla of morality or decency.
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Sun Feb-12-06 12:28 PM
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12. either the president has to follow the law or not. |
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if not, congress should pack up and go home.
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Sun Feb-12-06 12:50 PM
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13. And the next time technology allows cameras in cars or houses |
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or voice tehcnology allows for conversations to be heard up to a block away, do we amend it then?
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Sun Feb-12-06 12:56 PM
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14. There is something totally bogus |
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About this whole issue…what drove them to engaging in contravention of the law? The only logical answer is that they were doing something that will not pass the smell test of the FISA court. I would guess that the search was so broad and swept up so many that clearly had no connection to any legitimate intell.
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Sun Feb-12-06 12:57 PM
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15. this is exactly what repug want to shift away from breaking law |
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yes it can be done. bottom line bush broke the law.
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