Why isn't anyone talking about what Tweety (Matthews) said about Cheney

[mtnsnake]

today in his show this morning?

In the conclusion of his show, he made some pretty strong implications about the VP in reference to how Cheney has pretty much usurped power, and not in an honest manner.

[ClassWarrior]

1. Guess we are now.

I missed it. Maybe canofun.com will post it.

NGU.

[spanone]

2. Damn, I missed that!

[Cocoa]

3. maybe because no one made it to the end of his show

maybe everyone who started watching his show smashed the crap out of their TV two minutes into it.

[mtnsnake]

4. Maybe it's because he's not quite as biased towards repukes as

so many posters claim.

[Webster Green]

9. Nah, he's just fickle...

He has no actual opinion on anything. He is an entertainer.

Tweety tends to follow the prevailing winds, so to speak.

[Marr]

55. Exactly.

His "opinion" is worthless, because he hasn't actually got one. Well- not precisely "worthless". I suppose he might be seen as a weathervane for the prevailing political winds- at least, inside the current power structure.

[Cocoa]

10. no, he's 100% bought and paid for by the republicans

we've seen his pretenses about being an independent journalist, being against the Iraq war, etc.

They can be pretty convincing, I agree. And entertaining. I especially enjoyed him smacking down Peggy Noonan about Saddam and 9/11.

But they're fake. He's a whore. His bosses are the republicans.

[mtnsnake]

12. and you know this as a fact of life? Or is this just your opinion?

[Cocoa]

13. my opinion

[mtnsnake]

16. Thanks, cocoa

:)

[The Backlash Cometh]

21. We know he voted for Bush. We know he was harder against

Gore than he was to Bush in 2000. We know that he was in a clip with Patricia Ireland, his teeth gnashing as he fought her pro-choice views. His hand was shown on screen and it looked like he was about ready to slap her. His body language was very hostile. We know that his choice of words are slanted to the right. We know that he hasn't had a track record of being pro-liberal.

[carolinalady]

26. but he gave his money to the Dems-there was a thread listing all

the media political donations a few weeks ago.

[The Backlash Cometh]

49. It's a red-herring, if you ask me.

A visceral gesture so he can continue calling himself a Democrat.

[Garbo 2004]

57. He last gave to a Dem over 10 yrs ago, according to FEC database.

My search through the online sites hasn't turned up any Tweety donations to anyone of any party after that time.

[KoKo]

20. Here's the link to documented Matthews' Lies and the ongoing Boycott...

Check it out...so you will understand why many here don't bother with him, anymore.

http://openlettertochrismatthews.blogspot.com/

[KoKo]

22. dupe...

[KoKo]

24. Link to Matthews Boycott with examples of his lies and distortions:

http://openlettertochrismatthews.blogspot.com/

[mtnsnake]

28. Thanks. Those are convincing links. What about this, though....

"I think one of two things is going on with Matthews, take your pick. First, Matthews' show is in trouble and he's trying to become the Rush Limbaugh of the liberals. Why else, as Hogberg said in his column, all the hoopla over seven years on the air, complete with liberal politicians sending in their congrats. Seven years is such an odd number, but when you're in trouble you pull out the big guns.

OR....Chris is auditioning each and every night for a slot on the new Air America liberal talk radio network."
http://peacecorpsonline.org/messages/messages/467/2021050.html

or this....

"Over-zealous, radical liberal hosts, like Mr. Matthews, feel threatened by intelligent conservative commentators, like Michelle Malkin, and they try to hide their fear by attacking them."
http://www.slobokan.com/index.php?p=2205

[Jane Austin]

33. What about it?

Are you actually giving credence to that stuff?

Yikes.

[mtnsnake]

Huh?

What are you talking about? I'm not giving credence to any of that stuff I posted those links to.

I posted those links to show that the other side doesn't appreciate Tweety either. Many of the neocons consider Tweety to be a liberal, just as those links suggest.

(edit for clarity)

[Jane Austin]

39. Your post appeared to be trying to dispute the list of Tweety lies

with links to far right-wing opinons. I don't find those objections credible and wonder why you are using them in your argument.

[mtnsnake]

42. No

I simply used them to show that Tweety is hated by the right as well as by the left, and that people can be selective in their criticism.

[Jane Austin]

44. Based on their televised love fests, I say a lot of the right wing

like Tweety quite a bit, so I think your premise is false.

As for your far right wing sources, I don't think they like anybody but their own kind.

[mtnsnake]

46. Whatever you say

I'm not interested in arguing with you about what I meant, when I know what I meant, despite whatever way you want to continue interpret it.

They're not my right wing sources, btw. They're links that I got by googling "Chris Matthews is a liberal". Geesh!

[calimary]

47. I would HARDLY regard chris matthews as auditioning for a slot on

Air America. Except for maybe the "Snake in the Grass Show." He is HARDLY a liberal, no less an over-zealous or radical one. Please. chris matthews - a liberal? If he is, he certainly keeps it a secret. Over time he's proven to me to be QUITE to the wrong of center, as opposed to leaning to the left. The way he stacks the deck, gives more air/face time to conservatives/regressives/bushbots/wrong-wing think-tankers/GOP operatives-shills than he does to progressives or liberals. The way he fires hard, combative, and below-the-belt questions at Democrats FAR MORE FREQUENTLY than he does with republi-CONS, and he interrupts OUR people far more frequently than he does with the other schmucks, not to mention letting them have the last word most of the time. Not only that, but he's FAR more likely to question some statement that a Democrat or liberal makes than he is to challenge something said by any republi-CON. THEIR blathering he mostly leaves unquestioned. I have yet to see him set the record straight with any of these people. He was KIND OF hard on Victoria Clarke, at least firing off a litany of republi-CON lies and distortions and what's gone wrong because of them, but it was at the end of their segment, and it was very much uncharacteristic of his usual day-to-day crapspew. That was ONE instance, versus hundreds, if not thousands of others that are/were horrifically slanted to give them a nice, friendly little cakewalk on TV.

Ordinarily, he can be counted on to do the standard shilling - giving republi-CONS a once-over-lightly, and raking Democrats over the coals, while he's got them stretching on a rack.

He is NOT our friend. Thing is, though, he probably won't be theirs, either, especially as this year wears on, and more shit comes out and more scandals erupt and the war doesn't get any better and the insurgence grows worse and the upheaval throughout the Middle East grows ever more terrifying and bush's nose keeps growing longer and longer, and the shit he's pulling becomes more and more unsustainable and unsupportable. As the GOP rats start deserting the ship, so will he. He'll pile on them, too. Because he'll consider it to be the chic, viewer-friendly, ratings-winning thing to do. He's anybody's baby. He'll let you bring him to the dance and sweet talk you through the first song, but count on him to bail when he says he's getting you a drink, and to leave with somebody else - whom you don't like, and who doesn't like you, either.

I trust chris matthews like I trust most republi-CONS. Which is - NOT AT ALL. He'll REALLY have to walk in the path of the Light for a CONSISTENTLY LONG TIME for me to consider being won over. And it might help for him to apologize for this on-air bias, and do so on the air.

[mtnsnake]

51. I couldn't agree with you more

It just shows how selective people can be from EITHER side when they're looking for reasons to criticize him, but especially the right wing...where they're totally irrational.

[Protagoras]

32. He's not a true "anything" except opportunist.

He isn't a repuke...he's a whore. He'll go wherever the ratings and the windfalls blow. If he smells repuke blood he'll nail them to get back in bed with the other side. I don't trust him as far as I can punt him.

That being said, it means he can be right a couple times a day. You just have to be more informed than he is to know when that is.

[calimary]

54. Good post! He is an opportunist. An opportunistic infection.

Which, in my opinion, puts him over among those in the Dark Side, by definition.

[tularetom]

5. Ruh roh - Tweety's off his meds again

The reason I don't get too excited when he says stuff like this is that tomorrow he'll be gushing over how manly * is and trashing Dems viciously. He's the most schizophrenic windbag on TV consistent only in his inconsistency. The other reason is that nobody watches him except us DU'ers so whatever he says carries little impact.

That said, I applaud his hopefully permanent turn to sanity.

[gordianot]

6. I've seen this happen before. The good Tweety is being channeled.

Next week Tweety will kiss Republican ass, focus on how disorganized Democrats are and say something nice about Cheney.

[OzarkDem]

15. Ratings n/t

[emulatorloo]

17. dunno, tweety is pretty consistently anti-neocon, anti-cheney

seems to have a crazy notion that Bushboy was "mis-led" by that crowd.

[gordianot]

27. Bushboy is led that is why he is where he is at.

He is also a sick individual deep in the throes of a "Narcisstic Personality Disoder" so they are exploiting somone who is mentally ill will never really know or be able to acknowledge it. When confronted Bush resorts to the only two diversions of a Narcisstic he lies or clams up. It is impossible to mislead Bush, he is convinced he is the source of all ideas.

As for Tweety you probably know more about him than I, he has made me mad so many times I have for the most part given up broadcast media.

[mtnsnake]

29. Yeah, but Tweety has also made the neocons mad, too. See post #28

[BlueManDude]

7. next week he'll be saying Cheney is a great American n/t

[Kahuna]

30. He has long used Cheney as a scapegoat for the chimp. Nothing

is ever the chimp's fault. It's always the evil Cheney's doings.

[mtnsnake]

31. If this is true, then I think you may have nailed it. n/t

[seabeyond]

8. we know this tweety. we have been telling you.... n/t

[SpiralHawk]

11. The Usurper-in-Chief: Sneer Cheney has outflanked Smirk Bush

Snarl.

[Loge23]

14. Because we've tuned him out long ago

Matthews is a shill. Nothing he says should taken seriously - even if it jibes with the truth.

[emulatorloo]

19. your choice - OTOH hardball has the best Plamegate coverage on TV

EOM

[Jane Austin]

35. Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy!

Somebody on DU used the word "jibe" instead of the incorrect "jive".

Yippee!! Hooray for you!

[C_U_L8R]

18. Tweety needs to earn my trust back

Turned him off a few months ago....
he was apparently playing loose with the truth
and was certainly not acting as a good or fair journalist.

And fair reporting does NOT mean giving a corrupt regime
a free pass on their obvious lies and criminal actions.

Fair is a commitment to the TRUTH... no matter where it leads.
I hope Tweety finds it some day.

[Kahuna]

23. A lot of us didn't get to watch because of the blizzard...

:grr:

[Little Star]

25. Yes, He was canceled here

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

34. He was cancelled here too. Lots of white stuff outside and that's all

the local NY news was running on NBC until 11AM with a Very Disgusting MTP!

[Jane Austin]

36. The Chris Matthews Show is reshown on CNBC on Sunday evening.

I'm going to TiVo it and scan through to the good part.

[Kahuna]

41. What time is it reshown. I'd love to see it.

:hi:

[mtnsnake]

43. I just checked tv.yahoo.com and it says it will be aired again at 6 PM

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

45. Thank you for letting me know! BTW....

I adore Jane Austin! :)

[radio4progressives]

37. not talking about it because i didn't see it - and frankly for every rare

occasion he tells the truth about anything, he makes up for it with about a dozen outright lies. tired of waiting for that punk to deliver honest and fair representation of the issues.

in addition, all morning we've been treated to a re-run of the usual suspects that gave us shitty television representation throughout the entire kerry campaign, is being dished up to us again, i'm sick of it. i'm boycotting these shows until someone here on this board, who is connected to the party leadership make changes now in regards to these television appearances.

this country cannot afford any more idiocy by either party. that bush crime family has taken on us the brink of nuclear annihilation, and no one seems to understand it.

[Beelzebud]

38. Perhaps because to many of us, he is irrelevant.

[mtnsnake]

40. Yeah, he's so irrelevant that this place explodes whenever he says

anything that sounds like a repukian talking point! Yup, he's irrelevant alright :evilgrin:

[Lefty48197]

48. because Tweety is an idiot. Occasionally being right isn't going

to get people to start listening to his crap.

[0007]

50. Who watches Chris Matthews, except for idiots?

[Doctor_J]

53. Self-hating Dems

[0007]

58. You mean dim-wits, half-wits and nit-wits

[mtnsnake]

56. Normally the ONLY Sunday morning show I watch is CBC News Sunday

but it wasn't on at that time because of their Olympic coverage. During one of their commercial breaks, at around 25 minutes after the hour, I switched to NBC to see THEIR Olympic coverage, and there was Tweety, all over Cheney like flies on shit....so THAT'S why I saw Chris Matthews today and not because I'm an "idiot". I might be an idiot for other reasons but not for that one!!

[0007]

59. I believe ya! and I know what you mean.

[Ethan M Gaits]

52. Nobody's listening.