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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:15 PM
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Sorry, but scathing NYT editorials are not good enough
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 01:45 PM by Stevendsmith
Is this the standard for happiness and optimism in YEAR SIX of this criminal presidency?

That the NYT criticized the administration?

Big f--king deal.

This is a sucker’ game.

I don’t give a crap about critical editorials anymore.

Impeach. Indict. Convict.



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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:29 PM
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1. Way too late to get righteous now
NYT helped enable that criminal with its five years of silence.
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:35 PM
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2. Well, yes, the NYT will be back in the tank tomorrow
My broader point is that critical editorials are pretty much meaningless. It's the people and the political bodies that must take action.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:42 PM
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6. Oh I agree
It's just the tut-tutting is so frakking hypocritical. Where were you when this country needed you?
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:44 PM
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7. Agreed. It's sickening. (n/t)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:58 PM
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8. My LTTE.
Dear Editor:

It is still painfully ironic when the New York Times calls anyone else on a 'trust gap.'

YOU lied us into war, along with Bush.

YOU distorted Bush into a fine fellow and Gore into something much less. YOU did.

YOU accepted the 2000 election results without even gagging. YOU did not question the treasonous Supreme Court decision to not count our votes.

YOU blew Whitewater into a scandal. I caught you lying more times than I could count on that one alone.

Unhappy with the results? Damn. Me, too.

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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:13 PM
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10. Excellent!
:yourock:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:27 PM
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14. Don't forget 2004! They told us there was no story there.
The gaslighting bastards.

:yourock:
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:19 PM
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12. While I agree that the NYT is part of the greater media problem, there
is value in written criticism--it reaches the public, and if the public isn't aware, how can they decide to make a difference?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:37 PM
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3. not just silence
Bush used Judy Miller's stories to launch his war. Cheney brought the NYT with him to his TV appearances.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:14 PM
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11. On those Cheney TV appearances. At any time the NYTs could have
reported that Cheney was being disingenuous by citing stories that he himself had planted. Yet they did not. That makes them accomplices, IMHO.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:38 PM
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4. That's right, and thank you
In some ways, the more this administration is exposed for what it is AND the longer they stay in office, the more obvious it becomes that the administration is invulnerable and that our democracy is dysfunctional.

That's why I have mixed feelings about basement hearings, c-span speeches, token opposition votes, one-time rule 21 invocations, congressional investigations. That they happen is good...but ultimately they become part of the growing evidence of impotence.

I look forward to the day when opposition leaders put together a towering, compelling, comprehensive case of abuse of power.
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:41 PM
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5. Yes, please, no more fake "hearings" and "investigations"
It's the soviet-ization of America.

It's making me insane!
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:10 PM
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9. Thank you!
At this point, six years into this criminal administration, I am sick to my soul at what has transpired in our nation during the reign of Bush the Lesser.

When people say, oh goody, surely the dam is breaking this time -- I can only stare in wonder, at how low the bar is, at the lack of righteous anger, at the fact that this breaking dam will make no difference yet again, at the horrifying realization that he will serve out the remainder of his term, that in years to come the wholly-owned corporate media will find a way to lionize him as they did Reagan, that the two rivers that run through our country will remain divided, that the evil bastards are still running the show.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:23 PM
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13. They need to print Sibel Edmonds' response to Porter Goss's editorial!
That piece she released yesterday was so well done and really "cooked" Goss good! If they were to put that in their op-ed section (as they SHOULD, especially since it responded to one of THEIR editorials!), then I'd have more respect for them turning the corner...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 06:24 PM
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15. They are wonderful!!!
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