CNN just reports that Wittingham was admitted at 8:30 PM and eyewitness

[chelsea0011]

reports he was shot at 5:30 PM. He was sprayed with buckshot at a distance of 30 yards by the VP.

[Wilms]

1. Let's just cover this up with a couple of band-aids. n/t

[BrotherBuzz]

9. Purple Band-Aids!

[Judi Lynn]

23. Absolutely. Gotta have some Purple Heart Bandaids.

Republicans appear to love them.

[BrotherBuzz]

27. Judi Lynn, the image of that woman evokes emotions that...

make me feel truly ill. She epitomizes what is wrong with this nation.

[Fridays Child]

30. On SO many levels!

Her visage is positively nauseating.

[Lin]

36. yes sickening & look @ HIM! the cult of * sad so sad

[leftchick]

41. and her dentures are ill fitting

she should have spent her money on a reline rather than a trip to repukeville. :puke:

[blm]

50. She epitomizes that part of America that informs itself thru hatemongers

and their lies that they need to further a fascist agenda. She's a hate-filled DUPE, but still just a DUPE.

[ewagner]

2. 30 Yards with #6 shot?

I think that's still close enough to penetrate skin, isn't it?

[Jackpine Radical]

33. Definitely. 30 yards is well within the kill range for small game.

See my post below for more details.

[tridim]

3. He was probably worse off than reported..

They waited until today to report it in case he died.. In which case they would have NEVER reported it.

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. CNN is now saying he is in ICU

and was shot in the head.

[Fridays Child]

29. This is getting bad.

:scared:

[Plausible]

4. hunter in the house says

if it was buckshot at 30 yards he is in bad shape
BUT...not likely they were hunting quail with buckshot, more likely fine shot..........could still pepper him badly if dressed in light clothing.

[chelsea0011]

6. not being a hunter, I probably shouldn't have used buckshot. Above

post is accurate that it was number 6 shot. Another post says that is the max. size for quail in Tx.

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. And do you honestly believe they would obey the law?

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. I assumed Cheney would at least fire off

a few bunker busters just to impress his friends.

[rodeodance]

24. some news people are saying buckshot--but that says nothing.

[Missy M]

5. Three hours to admit him to the hospital. Maybe they weren't...

even going to take him to the hospital but he took a turn for the worse. This whole thing smells of an initial coverup.

[chelsea0011]

7. The eyewitness/owner of ranch says they took him immediately to

hospital but the doctor at the hospital says he was "admitted at 8:30". Going to and being admitted can take hours.

[Missy M]

10. I would assume he went to the emergency room and they....

admit you immediately in the emergency room, around here they do anyway.

[KharmaTrain]

25. Weekend Staff & Semantics

Whittington was probably admitted to the ER and his paperwork wasn't completed until 8:30. Having spent way too many days in ERs, ICUs and ECUs, I could see Whittington being in the ER room for several hours while being attended to and not being "officially" admitted...and then, once he's assigned a room (and it's decided if he's to stay or to "go"), then he was admitted. I wouldn't read that much into the timing.

[Missy M]

28. I too have spent many days in the ER and hospitals this...

past year with a family member. Each time we go the the Emergency Room the admitting paperwork is done right away and time stamped. The doctor should have said he was admitted to a room at 8:30 if that was the case not admitted to the hospital, big difference.

[KharmaTrain]

35. Could Have Been In A Trauma Center

I'm sorry to hear about your situation...and that it's not a regular occurance. I grew up around hospitals...my father was a physician...and ended up doing a lot of his paperwork in his final years. Different hosptials have different rules and how they treat these type of cases. I'm conjecturing that since this man probably wasn't from the area that the hospital wasn't sure once he was treated if he would be staying or transported to another facility...or this was not the first facility that treated him. Too few details.

The fact this creates a new distratcion may not be a bad thing right now...keeps Crashcart in the spotlight, and he really doesn't like being scrutinitized...only he does the scrunitizing.

[alcibiades_mystery]

26. LOL..admit you immediately to the emergency room

God bless your good real estate. That's a good one! Immediately! :rofl:

Of course, I would imagine that the process is sped up when the guy comes in accompanied by the fucking veep! Having been fucking shot by the fucking veep!

[file83]

43. Exactly - if that guy died, Dick would be in BIG trouble.

[kestrel91316]

53. I seriously doubt there would be any noticeable repercussions for

Cheney if the guy died. He is untouchable, as they all are. Remember, he cannot be indicted, even for murder. And Congress would NEVER impeach for that, they would just say "It was an unfortunate accident, and now leave poor Dickie alone!" And furthermore, Bush would pardon him in advance if there were a prosecutor waiting for Cheney to leave office to indict him.

Untouchable.

[Missy M]

44. I said they admit you immediately, by that I mean they take info.....

name, statistics, insurance and make an ID band for your wrist. If they didn't do that the ER's would be in more chaos than they already are. I didn't say they treat you immediatly.

[Sparkly]

11. That seems weird.

These people can make anything happen -- seems they could have had him admitted immediately, no?

[bklyncowgirl]

12. If Secret Service drives up with the guy and says "admit this guy"

He's admitted no questions asked.

Sounds fishy to me.

[Texasgal]

That's true!

We used to have ER labors and the babies and Moms wouldn't be admitted until the next day in some cases.

[FlemingsGhost]

15. "Going to and being admitted can take hours."

The "haves and have-mores," never wait.

[chelsea0011]

Very true

[Texasgal]

20. Not true....

Sorry, but that is not true. I worked for years as an RN in triage and floors. I am still an RN, but I workin private practice now.

Hospitals TREAT first ask questions later.

If there is a "spin" on this story ( which I believe there is ) it's not this.

[countingbluecars]

18. I agree.

Maybe they thought Cheney's medical staff could just patch him up and keep the whole thing under wraps.
This whole story stinks.

[OzarkDem]

38. CNN said Cheney's staff worked on him

adding that Cheney travels with his own doctor.

Poor guy probably did take a turn for the worse and forced their hand.

[Generic Brad]

51. Three Hours Is Plausible

After all, the guy is 78 years old. He must have had forms to fill out first for the new Medicare program.

[AngryAmish]

8. I thought he was hunting birds

if you hit a bird with buckshot than there would not be much left of the bird.

[AngryAmish]

13. They were hunting quail

Bird shot is pretty fine stuff. Tough to do a lot of damage at thirty yards.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. He is in ICU

with a head wound.

[rodeodance]

21. most likely as a precaution--wife said on cnn he was ok.

[OzarkDem]

47. You believe that?

These people will say anything to the news media to protect their own.

If this guy is still in Trauma ICU over 24 hrs after being shot in the head, he's not ok, no matter what his wife says.

:wtf:

[Jackpine Radical]

32. 30 yards is well within the bird-killing range of a shotgun

loaded with, say, #6 shot. It would probably be fairly hard to kill a person at this range, but you can do a lot of damage. Depending on the choke, the spread of the shot will be about 18 (full choke) to 35 (open choke) inches, so a relatively large percentage of the pellets in the load would hit a person-sized target at that range, and each of those pellets would be capable of penetrating a way and would likely require surgical removal. There are about 250 pellets in a standard 1.125 oz. load of #6 shot in a 12 ga. shotgun.

[rocktivity]

45. This is the best thing about DU

You can always count on someone having expertise in SOMETHING!!!

:loveya:
rocknation

[chelsea0011]

19. It didn't take long to blame the victim

Cheney and his group are saying that after a quial was shot they all went to retrieve it and Wittingham showed up without announcing himself which is protocol. Then he got shot soon after. WTF

[titoresque]

31. This happened yesterday and they are just

reporting it today?!

[OzarkDem]

40. Trying to get everyone's story straight

I wonder if the doctors will go along with the cover up?

[cathandler]

34. Isn't "quail season" in the fall?

n/t

[peekaloo]

37. In Texas it ends late Feb.

Duck season in Nov.

[spanone]

39. Cheney had to sober up.

[file83]

42. Sounds to me like an oldschool DUAL. I bet they paced off 15 yards in

opposite directions, turned, and fired. Harry missed, Dick hit.

[notadmblnd]

46. Kinda reminds me of the time I broke my arm

it was my sisters fault, she made me ride the boys bike. My arm was literally broken in two, you could see the bones hanging down through my skin. She begged me not to tell our mother. yeah, like how was I gonna hide that?

[Neil Lisst]

48. buckshot? Or birdshot?

I kinda doubt it was buckshot, which would have done serious, maybe lethal, damage.

Birdshot, not so much.

[doc03]

49. My thoughts also, for hunting birds you would use #6

or #7 1/2 shot that is birdshot. Buckshot is for bucks hence the name buckshot. At 30 yrds. birdshot would be painful but not lethal.

[Poiuyt]

52. I guess Cheney hadn't reached his bag limit yet

[janx]

54. 30 yards and the guy is still in ICU?

Really?

[ShortnFiery]

55. What were THEY (Cheney's Personal Ambulance Cronies) doing ...

with (TO?) Wittingham between 5:30-8:30PM last night? If this guy would have died would they have made him, like disappear instead?

Momma hold me? I'm scared! :scared: