Hunting info and questions that need to be asked.

[Botany]

Texas Quail Season

Quail Statewide (all counties) October 29 - February 26

Size of shot used for Quail (b.b.s in shells) #6 or smaller
#6 is roughly 1/8"

Was this a game farm hunt?
A game farm raises birds and the "stocks" them into the fields not long
before the hunt. The birds have very little chances to survive even if
they are not shoot by the hunters .... they don't have the outdoor I.Q.
to make it.

Why was the accident on Sat. and reported on Sunday?

When did bush know about this?

[Plausible]

1. also

is it illegal to shoot a peson for game in texas.

people are arrested for that in Pennsylvania.

[Botany]

2. bingo!

He has to be charged w/ something.

[Squatch]

3. You are not restricted to same shot requirements for

farm-raised birds as you are for wild birds. You can use #6, 000 buck, or a baseball bat, if you want to.

[Cleita]

4. About hunting. I understand that you aren't going to take guns

and the right to hunt from those who want to do it. I understand that it's sometimes necessary to thin the wildlife, whose natural predators have been killed off in any given area a century ago. I know in many economically depressed areas of the Northwest and the South, hunting is how some feed their families.

Now, my problem is with amateurs, who don't have hunting skills. These are the guys who don't know much about guns, or aren't good shots. As a campground host in the past, I have nearly been shot during hunting season, picking up trash on the trails, which was one of my duties.

This is because the amateur hunter will hear or see something in the bushes and will shoot first and worry about it later. The expert hunter draws a bead on his prey and then shoots. Also, I have seen animals wounded, who run off, who will bleed to death or will be crippled if they survive because of amateur hunters. I think the practice of bear hunting with dogs is beyond cruel, not to mention those awful farms who stock them with tame game and exotic animals.

We need laws that make it tough to get a hunting license. Those who need to hunt for food usually know what to do and have the necessary firearm skills to pass it. Those who wish to learn to hunt need to get someone to teach them, like we teach people to drive with a learner's permit.

And those hunting farms need to go. Now I'm not talking about the rancher who allows quail, turkey and deer hunting on his property of the wild animals who pass through on it. Bears just need to be left out of the hunting season menu altogether. It's too hard to hunt them without involving some cruel practices and who eats bear meat anymore anyway?

[KoKo]

5. Quail Hunting Tips:

5 Tips for Late-Season Quail
Toward the end of the season most quail hunters think all of the coveys have been shot out. But by changing tactics, you can find birds in incredible numbers.

By Jim Matthews
:puke:

The best time to hunt quail isn't early in the season when the birds are young, dumb and still calling to every truckload of hunters who stop on a dirt road and toot on quail calls. The best time to hunt quail is late in the season, when everyone else believes the coveys are shot out and can't find birds.

Once the season begins, quail quickly learn to change their routine. On heavily hunted coveys, the late season starts about the second weekend of the season. Even in remote areas, most coveys have seen hunters by the middle of the season, and they change their habits accordingly. Add in a little cooler weather, rain and maybe some snow, and late-season quail hunting is like hunting a whole different bird.

After nearly 40 years of chasing valleys, Gambel's and mountain quail throughout the West, I've learned five lessons that have improved my success to the point where I actually prefer to hunt after early-season crowds have thinned.

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:RPecdWm8eOcJ:www.gameandfishmag.com/hunting/upland-birds-hunting/gf_aa126404a/+Quail+hunting+season+begins+in+Texas&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=7

[Cleita]

8. We have quail who run through our property all the time.

They actually nest in our bushes. My stepdaughter would shoot anyone herself who would touch her quail. I don't understand why anyone would want to kill them and quite honestly there isn't that much meat on them. So I think it's just assholes like Cheney who like to shoot off their guns and kill things.

A ranger in one of my campground jobs told me that the deer know when hunting season starts and they disappear and hide. I also noticed that all the ducks disappeared on the lakes during duck hunting season. I thought they had started migrating south, but I found out where they went before they migrated. There was a wildfowl preserve on another lake nearby. I drove by there one day during duck hunting season and the lake was wall to wall with the ducks waiting out duck season. :-)

[KoKo]

9. I know...who would shoot Quail or Doves (who mate for life)

In this day and age folks who don't need to Hunt for food for their family to live makes me think they are just KILLERS like CHENEY..who can't get enough from what he and the Chimp did in Iraq that they need to go out there and kill what's left of our native and non-native wildlife.

They kill not to EAT TO SURVIVE...but for the PLEASURE OF THE HUNT...I just can't see "getting OFF on that mentality."

I don't understand it...and nothing will ever allow me to deal with it MORALLY!...:-(

[Catchawave]

14. Anybody comes near my backyard mourning doves....

WATCH OUT ! Such sweet, gentle little things :loveya:

[Squatch]

12. I've hunted and killed both quail and dove.

They are small game birds, but they are a challenge to hunt and the reward is very good. I consider dove to be the best tasting of the upland game birds and quail isn't too shabby, either.

[KoKo]

16. Qual might be a pursuit...but DOVE? Come to my back yard bird feeder

and you could pick off our large lumbering loveable doves by just rushing out and grabbing one of them.

Pursuit of DOVES? Why are they the "symbol of peace." They are very loveable quiet birds who don't bother anyone. Slow moving and in pairs.

Any person who finds DOVES good quarry for pursuit has to be a "murder", IMHO...I just don't see the Southern/Western "THING" of DOVE HUNTING....

Sheesh... Do they taste that good? Do you kill both of them..since they mate for life so that one isn't left bereft without the other? Or, do you feel birds are dumb and don't feel ....and like us (humans)...they can always find another mate..?

[Squatch]

18. Doves are not "slow moving"

they're the most difficult birds I've ever hunted.

Yes, they do taste wonderful. Especially the ones that have been feasting on birdfeeders. :evilgrin:

Geese mate for life, too, apparently. I also hunt those birds.

[KoKo]

19. Um....I could catch one with my hands...If I ever see you around my bird

feeder looking for doves that are nice and fat off my birdseed you will get a load of buckshot in a place you might not feel comfortable dealing with... And...if you shoot geese (who also mate for life) I can find an even darker scenario...if you came ...in my back yard...

I have read alot of Agatha Christie but maybe a more gruesome writer might be one I'd use to deal with you......:D

[Squatch]

20. I'll take your threats as tongue in cheek. Rest assured, your birdfeeder

is safe.

[Cleita]

21. My family keeps a cote of doves. If you like to eat doves,

you might really enjoy mice. Their habits are equally as dirty and they eat anything including their own shit.

[ryan_cats]

6. As a gun owner I support hunting

As a gun owner I support hunting but would never go hunting myself. These canned hunts are nothing more than an ego trip for pseudo-hunters who want to kill something but lack the skill and patience.

If Cheney was doing one of these, well actually, I don't think my opinion of him could sink any lower.

Who was president while Cheney was hunting, did he do a transfer or power?

[Botany]

7. i hunt a little too.

Canned hunts are just sick ..... in one hunt in PA he and 9 friends killed 410 pheasants in one day.

i wonder why it took 24 hours for this story to get out?

Dick needed to do a breath test?

[KoKo]

10. I understand it's a MALE or maybe even a Female"Bonding Thing" BUT

if you don't need it to live then why KILL? It's not like Cheney NEEDS to Hunt...he does it for Sport...like the "Old English Entitlements do..."

It's disgusting to me. Kill if you need to eat it to live...but give me a break to justify it otherwise ....except for "bonding with relatives." And, if that's the case I know many hunters in the South who don't KILL EVERYTHING IN SIGHT...just to go out on Christmas Day for "Tradition" to bond with their kids...

In other words, there are many "traditional hunters who don't feel the need to kill everything in sight to bond with their kids...they just do it to show the kids how to be familiar with guns in some way... :shrug: Bonding...

[benEzra]

22. I don't hunt, but I know lots of people who do (I'm in NC),

and almost everyone I know who is a hunter eats everything they take. Venison is popular down here.

I don't hunt and I'm not sure I'd have the heart to shoot Bambi's dad :D, but I don't see any philosophical difference between hunting a deer and paying a Tyson employee hunt a cow or a chicken for me--and package it neatly in a wrapper for me to buy at the grocery store. I dare say a deer that is taken by a hunter lived a better life than the cow you had for supper last week.

Humans are omnivores; we have the teeth and the digestive tract to prove it (unlike that of most primates, our GI tract is set up for meat). So I think there's not much of a moral difference between a cougar hunting a deer for food and a human hunting one.

Now shooting an animal kept in a pen, just to mount the head on your wall--I'd have a problem with that. But not hunting something that you're going to eat.

[janx]

11. I'm not a tin-foil hat poster by any means...

but there's a lot about the official story that doesn't make sense.

[napi21]

13. Like what? So far, everything I've read makes sense.

I doesn't excuse the VP from his carelessness or stupidity, but what doesn't make sense to you?

[Ksec]

15. I used to hunt alot

And for anyone, especially someone with experience, to accidentally shoot another hunter tells me hes an idiot . With a capital I. My God man, Cheney must really be stupid and careless to do something like this. I could see if it were a child or a beginner but a full grown man with experience? Jeebus, what a fking moron.

[KoKo]

17. He's a F**k Up FAILURE! He only hunts creatures who have been raised

"penned" and released on "fake ranches" or "sports game farms." He's like those CEO's who want mansions with endangered species hanging on their Mansion walls dreaming of the "Gilded Age." There are "Sports Farms/Safari Farms" hidden in states all over America catering to those who have wild dreams of their manhood hanging on a wall as a trophy.

If you need to KILL to LIVE then KILL what you need to EAT...don't take more of it...Don't take anything for SPORT...in today's world how does that make one a MAN or MACHO? Maybe there's a bit of a tied with the past with one's Dad or Grandad...hunting as a commeraderie...and one must do it to keep a sense of family...but even then...isn't taking more than you need to eat really a moral dilemna?

:shrug: