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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 07:42 AM
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Detention Camp Jitters
In the Buzzflash article by Maureen Farrell "Detention Camp Jitters" there is a historical nugget about President Lyndon Johnson's as a war time President. This was when the party in power could investigate could investigate the president, also of the same party.


It should be noted that the government has traditionally tried to curb dissent during wartime and much of what we're seeing today existed in the Vietnam era, too. In 1967, with the assistance of an Army task force, President Lyndon Johnson established the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders, which called for the use of military force to squelch civil disturbances. A year after four unarmed Kent State University students were gunned down by members of the Ohio National Guard, Sen. Sam Ervin's Subcommittee on Constitutional Rights uncovered information regarding Operation Garden Plot and discovered a massive military surveillance program used against citizens. The FBI's domestic counterintelligence program, COINTELPRO also came to light when the Citizens Committee to Investigate the FBI lifted documents and leaked them to the press. And, as we later learned, from 1967 to 1971 the FBI also kept an "agitator index" or ADEX file, which was a list of individuals to be rounded up as subversives.

http://buzzflash.com/farrell/06/02/far06003.html

and then Maureen gives examples of an unchecked Presidency (bushie, of course):

Operation Cable Splicer, a subplot of Operation Garden Plot which included plans to control civilian populations and take over state and local governments, also appeared to be in play during Hurricane Katrina, when President Bush announced that the Pentagon was developing plans to give the military a larger role in responding to catastrophic events and suggested that the federal government should override state and local authorities. "It is now clear that a challenge on this scale requires greater federal authority and a broader role for the armed forces," Bush said in a speech. (The president also announced that the U.S. military could enforce quarantines should there be a bird flu outbreak, which Irwin Redlener, associate Dean of Columbia University's School of Public Health for Disaster Preparedness, deemed an "extraordinarily draconian measure," which translates to "martial law in the United States.").

In 2002, a New York Times editorial stated that the FBI now has "nearly unbridled power to poke into the affairs of anyone in the United States, even when there is no evidence of illegal activity" and one year later, FBI Intelligence Bulletin no. 89 was sent to police departments, revealing that the federal government was advocating that local authorities spy on U.S. citizens. When the Atlanta Police Department acknowledged that it routinely places antiwar protesters under surveillance, Georgia Rep. Nan Orrock told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. "This harkens back to some very dark times in our nation's history."
How dark? NSA wiretapping aside, it's now clear that the Pentagon has been monitoring dangerous militants such as the Quakers while the FBI has been spying on the Catholic Worker's Group, Greenpeace and PETA. As Silencing Political Dissent author Nancy Chang pointed out, "With the advent of electronic record-keeping, the FBI is likely to maintain far more dossiers on law-abiding individuals and to disseminate the dossiers far more widely than during the COINTELPRO era."
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:21 AM
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1. .
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:27 AM
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2. me too. nt
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:26 AM
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3. Speechless....n/t
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:29 AM
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4. oh Canada!
:kick:
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 06:21 PM
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13. I hear you -- I'm not going to stay.
As soon as hubby retires -- we are leaving.

My 93 year old friend escaped from Germany, her Jewish husband was born in Belgium and she was born in Austria so they escaped to America. At the time the US had quotas and the quotas for Germans was filled but Belgium and Austria had room on their quotas.

She also tells how the Nazi Brownshirts busted into their home at 2 a.m. to check their library. All they could do is watch the semi illiterate Brownshirts paw through the books in the library. She said she and her husband a couple of "suspect" books but thankfully the Brownshirts didn't recognize the titles. Shortly after they had their traveling papers from America. These permission to immigrate papers were a matter of life and death.

I hope that the liberals in America never will have to escape. Right now my husband and I have a choice -- but if we are aware of history -- and the bush gang isn't brought under control -- history will be repeated.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 09:29 AM
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5. Right!
"Land of the Free Home of the Brave" :eyes:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:58 AM
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6. "Suspension of the Constitution" with Huston Plan and with REX84
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 12:00 PM by EVDebs
Nixon's Watergate era (Tom) Huston plan came next, then Reagan era's Ollie North and FEMA 'suspension of the Constitution', constitutionally of course--with justices like Roberts and Alito who ruled on the Executive orders making this possible.

Nowadays, ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, has taken over much of the FEMA intelligence chores

see their weblink

"With the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the functions, expertise, resources and jurisdictions of several once-fragmented border and security agencies were merged and reconstituted into Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the DHS’s largest investigative bureau. The agencies that were either moved entirely or merged in part, based upon law enforcement functions, included the investigative and intelligence resources of the United States Customs Service, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, the Federal Protective Service and, as of November 2003, the Federal Air Marshals Service"

http://www.ice.gov/graphics/about/organization/

As the 'DHS's largest investigative bureau' ICE will work hand in hand with NSA/FBI/DIA et al. Even more frightening is the RFIDs technologies paired with GPS and 'background checks'

Company requires RFID injections
http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/134

along with

Total Surveillance
http://www.motherjones.com/interview/2005/12/albrecht.html... ...

Couple this insidious technology with purposely erroneous background checks

Who is checking the background checkers?
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1128/p13s02-wmgn.html

They've offshored, outsourced, and privatized TIA (to the Bahamas with Global Information Group Ltd.). Now all they have to do is fire you for being 'of the wrong political party' and put false information in your background data...and voila ! You've just created the most insidious terror project in the US ever.

If they can track my underwear purchased from Wal-Mart, how come they can't track the kidney dialysis equipment OBL requires in his lair between Afgan/Pakistan ? Not that * really WANTS to capture the guy (he doesn't really worry about him, remember ?).


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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:41 PM
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10. Don't forget what they
did with Arab translators. They fired a bunch just because they were gay. :eyes:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:39 PM
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7. Chilling!
:scared:

Could the camps be for conscientious objectors or draft dodgers or anyone who decides to get out of dodge and move to Canada? :tinfoilhat:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:40 PM
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8. Yep... And...
<snip>

For some, the answer comes in the form of yet another government contract awarded to Halliburton subsidiary, Kellogg, Brown & Root to build "temporary detention facilities" in case of an "immigration emergency." Reminiscent of Rex 84, which was conducted on the premise of preparing for "an influx of immigrants," there is reason to believe that hoards of poor, tired immigrants are not the true concern. As Tom Hennessy of the Press-Telegram recently pointed out, "there already are thousands of beds in place at various U.S. locations for the purpose of housing illegal immigrants." So what else might these centers be used for?

<snip>

Same article.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:53 PM
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11. Plus...
US Detention Camps For Political Subversives

<snip>

In another shining example of modern day corporate fascism, it was announced recently that Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root had been awarded a $385 million dollar contract by Homeland Security to construct detention and processing facilities in the event of a national emergency.

The language of the preamble to the agreement veils the program with talk of temporary migrant holding centers, but it is made clear that the camps will also be used "as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency." Discussions of federal concentration camps is no longer the rhetoric of paranoid Internet conspiracy theorists, it is mainstream news.

Under the enemy combatant designation anyone at the behest of the US government, even if they are a US citizen, can be kidnapped and placed in an internment facility forever without trial. Jose Padilla, an American citizen, has spent over four years in a Navy brig and is only just now getting a trial.

In 2002, FEMA sought bids from major real estate and engineering firms to construct giant internment facilities in the case of a chemical, biological or nuclear attack or a natural disaster. Okanogan County Commissioner Dave Schulz went public three years ago with his contention that his county was set to be a location for one of the camps. Alex Jones has attended numerous military urban warfare training drills across the US where role players were used to simulate arresting American citizens and taking them to internment camps.

<snip>

Link: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WAT20060204&articleId=1886

Ya know... in the past, I'd have thought Mr. Watson a crack-pot.

Not anymore...

:mad::nuke::mad:

And: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MYS20060204&articleId=1888

And: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=STO20060205&articleId=1893

And: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=%20SC20060206&articleId=1897


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demgurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 02:00 PM
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12. ....."immigration emergency."
This has always puzzled me up until now. I always wondered if they thought a ton of Mexicans or Canadians would be running across the border. Now I realize they are hiding the truth in plain site.

There was a Zogby poll a few weeks ago that asked about leaving the country. I think the immigration emergency is about people piling out of the US rather than trying to pile in.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:40 PM
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9. Now days
all you have to do (well Bush) is say "terrorist" and off someone goes. :mad:
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