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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:16 PM
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How Dick Cheney "hunts"
Here is how Cheney "hunts";

Somebody takes a farm-raised quail that has likely never flown in its little life and throws it into the air for him to shoot. Like skeet shooting with real flesh and blood.

Game farm "hunting" is just like Trout farm "Fishing", but worse because the trout at least are in an element they are familiar with. The quail don't know how to fly.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:18 PM
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1. I bet Cheney fishes with dynamite too.
Or he just shoots fish in a barrel. How manly. :eyes:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:46 PM
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2. My guess is that these are wild quail, not farmed quail.
South Texas offers great hunting if the weather has provided enough moisture for food and cover. It's rugged terrain with a desert-like beauty at times. Quail, dove, deer, and javelina hunting can be good. I used to live in CC and the areas west of that coastal city. This area where they were hunting is a little further south and west.

Personally, I think it's immoral to kill and discard animals, so I hope they ate, or gave away to eat, everything they killed. I'm a vegetarian, but I appreciate consuming game more than farmed animals. At least the hunted animal had a shot at survival.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:59 PM
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3. His caged kills are notorious...
http://www.hsus.org/legislation_laws/wayne_pacelle_the_animal_advocate/cheneys_canned_kill_and_other_hunting_excesses_of_the_bush_administration.html

Cheney's Canned Kill, and Other Hunting Excesses of the Bush Administration

By Wayne Pacelle

Vice President Dick Cheney went pheasant shooting in Pennsylvania in December 2003, but unlike most of his fellow hunters across America, he didn't have to spend hours or even days tramping the fields and hedgerows in hopes of bagging a brace of birds for the dinner table.

Upon his arrival at the exclusive Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier Township, gamekeepers released 500 pen-raised pheasants from nets for the benefit of him and his party. In a blaze of gunfire, the group—which included legendary Dallas Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach and U.S. Senator John Cornyn (R-TX), along with major fundraisers for Republican candidates—killed at least 417 of the birds. According to one gamekeeper who spoke to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Cheney was credited with shooting more than 70 of the pen-reared fowl.
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Bird-shooting operations offer pheasants, quail, partridges, and mallard ducks, often dizzying the birds and planting them in front of hunters or tossing them from towers toward waiting shotguns. There are, perhaps, more than 3,000 such operations in the United States, according to outdoor writer Ted Williams.

For canned hunts involving mammals, hunters can shoot animals native to given continents—everything from Addax to Zebra—within the confines of a fenced area, assuring the animals have no opportunity to escape. Time magazine estimates that 2,000 facilities offer native or exotic mammals for shooting within fenced enclosures.

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The administration's most outrageous proposal is its plan to allow trophy hunters to shoot endangered species in other countries and import the trophies and hides into the United States. The administration first floated the proposal a few months ago, with formal proposals subsequently published in the Federal Register, and President Bush is expected to make a final decision soon on the plan, which originated with his U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

For 30 years, the Endangered Species Act has provided critical protections for species near extinction in the United States. The act also protects species in foreign nations, by barring pet traders, circuses, trophy hunters, and others from importing live or dead endangered species. While we can't prevent the shooting or capture of endangered species overseas, we can prevent imports—thus eliminating the incentive for American hunters and others to shoot or trap the animals in the first place.



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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:38 PM
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12. Oh, I know, and that is reason enough to for me to despise the man.
It's just that with his reputation for canned kills, it would be easy to assume this was another such "hunt". We have good hunting in SoTx most of the time, if you are privileged enough to get to do it. What has happened here is that there is no hunting on public lands, only private, and it is really hard to afford a place to hunt on.
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 02:10 PM
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6. They most likely were wild.
(I think it's immoral to kill and discard animals, so I hope they ate, or gave away to eat,)

Not only is it immoral, it's also illegal in all 50 states, to shot a game animal and leave it in the field.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 02:06 PM
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4. You forgot about the part where the Secret Service has someone in the VP's
entourage stand unknowingly in the line of fire so that Cheney can kill a human "accidentally."

Cheney is obviously inept at killing, so that's why he usually uses others to do it for him. "Hunting trips" are for pleasure-murders.


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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 02:09 PM
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5. Canned hunts are for lazy fat rich people
I dont believe they should be allowed. Its not ethical .
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 02:11 PM
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7. What is your definition of a canned hunt?
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 02:47 PM
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9. Why are you defending Cheney?
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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 03:03 PM
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11. I ask for a definition of a canned hunt
And you accuse me of defending Cheney.

Back off newbie.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 02:12 PM
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8. As long as he gets to kill something -
and as long as there's blood and guts

Cheney's not interested in sport.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 02:49 PM
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10. when you're fat & have had multiple heart attacks
the whole stalking part of it is out of your reach.

he's basically doing what rich fucks have done for millenia - except the maharaja used to kill tigers from horseback.
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