Is anyone else feeling down that we might be going after Iran next?

[WindRavenX]

Jesus. It's like I'm taking crazy pills again.

The same feeling is here when we were about to attack Iraq in 2003...it feels like a nightmare of a dejua vu mindfuck.

[XemaSab]

1. Lemme tell ya

Whatever the case, I think we fell down the rabbit hole quite some time ago.

I've curtailed my GD posting due to the fact that I'm so nonplussed about current events that there's really not much to be said on most topics (eg foreign affairs, domestic affairs, etc) other than the proverbial

:wtf:

[BeHereNow]

6. Or as I said on another thread- it's as if we were all trapped

in a REALLY bad episode of the Twilight Zone.
Frankly, I am scared out of my mind, but
what exactly are we to do?
It's not like we can stop them.
We haven't been able to yet.
Our Congress critters and Senators are
all owned by the very people we are asking them to
protect us from, AND they are getting filthy rich
along with the corporate thugs behind all of it.
WE are SO screwed.
BHN

[BeHereNow]

2. More like, is there any question we are going into Iran?

Yes, take the pills and DRINK heavily.
That is what I do because comfortably
numb is all we have left.
Lord knows we have no representation
or voice in what these crazy fuckers do next.
BHN

[Ecumenist]

3. Yes indeed.

Same foreboding feeling... Unfortunately.

[az chela]

4. I have been horribly depressed since John kerry wasnt elected

The bush years are destroying this once proud nation!!!
I no longer feel any pride in the usa

[caledesi]

11. That's exactly how I feel. nt

[pinniped]

5. The crooks are spouting scaaaaary Iran stories on a daily basis.

We've all seen their MO before.

[WindRavenX]

8. yup that's what's bothering me.

It's as if they're reading the same script as before-- expect they're recplacing "Iraq" with "Iran".:(

[BeHereNow]

9. EXACTLY.

It's deja vu all over again, except this time
we are not going after a country weakened
by years of sanctions- we are hitting the
heart of the hornet's nest with a VERY BIG stick.
I am really scared quite honestly.
BHN

[PatGund]

7. Yep

I just hope I'm out of the Middle East before it starts

[BeHereNow]

10. For God's SAKE! GET the fuck out of there NOW!

Where are you and why?
PLEASE don't tell me you are in the
military or working for a private contractor!
GET OUT!
NOW!
BHN

[PatGund]

29. Wish I could

I work for the Qatari branch of a US medical school in Doha.

9 days before I return to the US on a home leave, then five months before my contract is up for renewal.

I'm bringing a *lot* of my personal belongings back, including full backups of my computer systems, just in case things go south though.

[punpirate]

12. Yeah, and it's not a pleasant feeling...

... whatsoever. It has every chance of causing a much bigger war, far and above the local casualties it will cause in Iran. I'm not sure anyone can predict what might happen in Iraq, with its Iran-friendly Shi'ite leadership. What if Russia is not warned before an attack (for presumably "security" reasons) and several hundred Russian technicians are killed?

It's very disconcerting, if only because an attack such as this can spin out of control in so many different ways. People surmising about an attack on Iraq beforehand made good predictions about civil war or its equivalent. Best estimates about the eventualities implicit in an attack on Iran today are nebulous and very open-ended.

[BeHereNow]

13. "Spin out of control" How VERY Ledeen of them.

I'm afraid that is exactly what they want.
COMPLETE chaos and destruction in the ME,
or as Ledeen refers to it- "creative chaos."
Tear it down to build it up the way they want it.
I am truly scared at the implications.
BHN

[punpirate]

17. There was a study done a while back...

... of what I call the Joe Btfsplks of society, people who generate trouble wherever they go, because they, first, think their intelligence and abilities are far greater than they actually are, and second, because they're so good at convincing other people to go along with their harebrained schemes.

That's Michael Ledeen.

[melody]

14. I don't think so

Far be it for me to be the harbinger of non-gloom, but I honestly think this is a well-choreographed dance in which all the participants are playing. They can't pound the hornet's nest. There's no point in it. Our military is spent in Iraq. We have no financial resources. All we can do is play footsie over there while Europe does the same. I think there's a lot of high level wrangling going on between Euroworld forces. They may use Israel as a battering ram, but what would be the point? The war would cost much more than "merely" losing Iran's dollar standard. It might be far more catastrophic through unseen events, too.

We've been hearing saber rattling from all sides over the last five years. North Korea, too. There has only been the military move against Iraq. Would we really recoup all that much from blitzing Iran? When you consider the lives lost, the mass casualties, the sheer cost of the war to say nothing of the global prestige? Iran keeping the dollar or not. Unless, of course, this is Bushco's whole plan -- to destroy our economy and further ruin our standing in the global "mind". It would also benefit the Carlisle Groupies.

I found this sudden up-cropping of anti-comic hysteria rather interesting, especially in that it was based in Europe and Iran seemed to be fanning the flames. Would they be kicking Europe in the teeth (and blaming us also) if there was any real possibility of a western move against them unilaterally or not?

This is more a lot of speculation rather than theory, but I just find the idea of an Iran attack remote at best unless it is meant solely to further destroy the actual US (versus the Neocon BS facade).

[magellan]

15. I'm not down, really

More like watching in numb disbelief as BushCo prepare to pull off their next crime. It's like a horror movie that keeps repeating itself only I can't change the channel or leave the theater.

And right on cue here's that stupid character again, about to walk into the dark room no matter how loud we all yell NO!

BushCo are great at creating realities the world has to live through. Too bad they're about as benevolent as the Blair Witch and Freddy Krueger rolled into one.

[lastliberalintexas]

16. It isn't just a war with Iran

The destruction of what little progressiveness was left in the federal income tax code, the destruction of New Deal and Great Society programs (Medicare, Medicaid, elderly food program, student loans, etc. all being slashed), the destruction of the Bill of Rights (esp the 1st, 4th and 5th), and the destruction of what moral authority we had left in foreign affairs. Unfortunately, all good reasons to feel a little down.

[Talismom]

22. I've felt at least a bit depressed since the selection of 2000, but you've

just brought up the arguement that shakes me out of it. They still don't have what it takes to destroy what little progressiveness is left in anything, for more than a brief time. We all still carry it around in us and many of us will fight to the death, if necessary to bring these values back to the forefront. We just have to be more devoted to the cause and more effective in the battle.

[McKenzie]

18. It's affecting most of us who pay attention to current affairs

I just cannot get my tiny brain around the fact that a so-called "civilised" society is about to consider killing tens of thousands of human beings after having killed tens of thousands already. Even worse, the previous killings were predicated upon a pack of lies, had nothing to do with defending against a threat to humanity that didn't exist in the first place and have had the entirely co-incidental effect of generating huge profits for corporations. Killing people in the name of peace? Ummmm...is Mr Orwell in the house?

The more I see the more I'm convinced that we are powerless to stop the madness. Blair and Bush lied through their teeth and got away with mass murder. Murder* is not too strong a word either unless one accepts that dead kiddies in their Adidas football shirts are just the acceptable side effects of taking out the threat to humanity that, to reiterate, did not even exist in the first place.

Never surrender and all that. However, I think we are standing on the edge of one big fucking abyss. And that's not meant to be cheap hyperbole. If anyone thinks that the media is spinning lies bigtime at the moment just you wait until the bombs start raining down on Iran.

Thank JHC I don't have children.

edited to add: *It's easier to convict some teenage kid for possessing a tiny amount of a relatively harmless stimulant than it is to prosecute lying sacks of shit for killing civilians in their thousands.

[neweurope]

19. Yes, I'm horrified. I actually

wished all my friends "peace on earth" Christmas, something which always had seemed much to pathetic...

Right before the Iraq war I ran across this little game on the internet, featuring a map of the middle east, oil towers and rockets. I wish I could find it again. You could shoot a rocket into Iraq. As it turned out that was ALL you could do. After that the total destruction everywhere came on automatically. There was no stopping the "game". I think about this always.

I am very, very scared, momentarily more at what the Europeans are saying (German Social Democrats are suddenly agreeing with chancellor Merkel that we should not rule out a "military option" :cry: ) than what the Bushistas say (they are evil anyway,I don't expect better from them).

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[xjuliankayex]

20. dejua vu mindfuck

yes.

[Poiuyt]

26. Welcome to DU!

[newyawker99]

27. Hi xjuliankayex!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[flyarm]

21. much more than down..i feel absolutely helpless and sick ..oh so

very sick....i feel like a weight is on my chest unlike anything i have felt in my life...

fly

[foreverdem]

23. Sick and worried

I've been down ever since the "installment" of bush in 2000. Having Iran on the front burner gives me that horrible feeling all over again, just like feeling I had in the runup to the Iraq war.

[raccoon]

24. "Installment" is indeed the right word. nt

[FearofFutility]

25. The writing is on the wall

and has been for some time.

[Just Me]

28. Who's gonna' stop 'em? We have to be realistic, here. They will,...

,...proceed with PNAC come hell or high water.

The ONLY remaining hope I held was Fitz indicting those f*ckers in time to stop them. x(

Don't get me wrong. We are obliged to continue our objections and opposition. However, this cabal is gonna' do what the heck it wants.

[eridani]

30. Some of my more sensitive "psychic" online pals have been reporting--

--a really big uptick in nightmares and other odd phenomena.