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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 07:54 AM
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VP was the press strategist & Rove was the investigative Reporter (TIME)
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 08:01 AM by kpete
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Slow Leak: How Cheney Stalled News Reports of Hunting Accident
Word of the mishap took 20 hours to get out as the Vice President insisted on telling a local newspaper before everyone else, sources say
By MIKE ALLEN/WASHINGTON


The Vice President was the press strategist, and Karl Rove was the investigative reporter. Vice President Cheney overruled the advice of several members of the White House staff and insisted on sticking to a plan for releasing information about his hunting accident that resulted in a 20-hour, overnight delay in public confirmation of the startling incident, according to several Republican sources.

"This is either a cover-up story or an incompetence story," said a top Republican who is close to the White House and has rarely been critical of the Administration in the past five years. "Karl was constrained, as was the entire communications operation, because the Vice President had arranged for how this was to come out."

As described by the White House spokesman at a pair of rowdy briefings and in a follow-up e-mail to reporters, Cheney accidentally shot a 78-year-old hunting companion on a ranch near Corpus Christi on Saturday at about 5:30 p.m. local time, or 6:30 p.m. in Washington. A traveling aide to the Vice President gave what one official privately called a "heads up" to the staff at the White House Situation Room, who notified White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. He called President Bush around 7:30 p.m. "to inform him that there was a hunting accident" in the Vice President's group, a spokesman said, but Card "did not know the Vice President was involved at that time," according to an e-mail to White House reporters. Rove, a deputy chief of staff, later spoke to the ranch owner, who is a longtime friend, and discovered that the Vice President had acccidentally shot someone. Rove called Bush shortly before 8 p.m. to tell him, according to the e-mail. Press Secretary Scott McClellan was not told until 6 the next morning. At that time, he began "pushing to get the information out," according to an official who learned about the conversations from someone besides McClellan.

But that did not happen right away. Cheney insisted on carrying out a strategy he had worked out with the ranch owner, Katharine Armstrong, in which she was to call a trusted reporter at the local paper, the Corpus Christi Caller-Times, to disclose the news. Caller-Times Managing Editor Shane Fitzgerald told TIME that the newspaper had done its usual nightly checks with local law enforcement agents on Saturday and had been told nothing was going on. Armstrong started leaving messages at the newspaper at 8 a.m., reached a reporter by 11 a.m. and the newspaper posted its story on the Web at 1:48 p.m. local time Sunday. At 3:34 p.m. eastern time, The Associated Press finally flashed the news: "Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and injured a man during a hunting trip in Texas." Fitzgerald said he is "mystified" about the chain of events and that the public should have been notified much earlier, even if the shooter had been some random guy. Even on Monday, the newspaper struggled to get a copy of the accident report. "I think it has become a bigger deal than Mr. Cheney and/or the White House anticipated," the editor said.

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http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1159347,00.html

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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:09 AM
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1. Ask the F%#!'in question: "Had the VP consumed alcohol that afternoon?"
Nothing else explains the 20 hours of sandbagging.

Ask it!
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:39 PM
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11. I heard this am that the TX sheriffs said no alcohol involved. For
what that's worth
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:13 PM
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15. But they didn't investigate the "accident" until the day after........
I'm sure Cheney et al. told them there was no alcohol involved. And we all know, YOU CAN TRUST A REPUBLICAN TO TELL THE TRUTH! :rofl:

I know people who've gone on some of these "hunts" and from what they told me, alcohol is front and center at these things. Before, during and after. The "great white hunters" glowing in their manliness, bonding, drinking like fools and then shooting anything that moves and some things that don't. Is there one traffic sign in rural Texas that hasn't been blasted to hell with gunfire? I've never seen one.

I'm SURE Cheney was drinking along with the rest of them. It's a sacrament at these type of outings.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:18 PM
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16. "....glowing in their manliness...."
:rofl:

Yep, and then they blow away cage-raised, witless, wingless birds (per TDS). Yet they still believe in their own imagined manliness. Go figure. :eyes:
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:10 AM
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2. Sounds like Rove v. Cheney here.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:14 AM
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9. unbelievable rove had to go around cheney to the ranch owner for the facts
what a freaking weasel! what a coward! did he think he was going to hide it from the WH?
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:21 AM
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3. Man's Elbow, Mistaken for Squirrel, Shot
Associated Press
Man's Elbow, Mistaken for Squirrel, Shot
02.13.2006, 03:47 PM


A man was shot and injured when his hunting partner mistook his elbow for a squirrel, authorities said.

Michigan State Police said George Arthur Sikkenga, 64, of Muskegon, Michigan was wounded Sunday morning in Golden Township, in Michigan's west-central Lower Peninsula.

Sikkenga was wearing camouflage clothing except for an orange hat, which he had covered with a hood after sitting down behind a tree, The Muskegon Chronicle reported.

His clothed elbow was all of him that was visible when his friend, Gregory Scott Wood approached from behind the tree and fired his weapon, which the Ludington Daily News described as a .17-caliber rifle.

Sikkenga was transported to a local hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police were investigating the shooting.

http://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/feeds/ap/2006/02/13/ap2522438.html
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:27 AM
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4. What timing...LOL
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:20 AM
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10. Mike Royko Used To Publish Those
He would find one where a hunter would shoot his "personals" off...and every hunting season, some intrepid weekend warrior seemed to oblige

:rofl:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:27 AM
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5. Now we know why this country is in such a mess.
Cheney has had a lust for power since the Nixon days. He finally got that power. This hunting incident clearly displays his disregard for the law, to have things his way.

Also, bush comes off looking like a total clueless buffoon. Whether Rove did or did not want to reveal the story right away, who knows ...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:31 AM
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6. He needed time to sober up.
There's a REASON no one was notified on Saturday.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:57 PM
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14. I think its more likely didnt want it fodder for Sunday morning news fest

And just their reflex to always want to manage the news.
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exlrrp Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:49 AM
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7. Why didn't Cheney call Bush?
Waaaaaiiiidddaaaamiiiinnnniiitttt!!!
Cheney shot the guy at 5:30. An aide calls the White House staf room and a message is relayed to Card. Card calls Bush to tell hi there was a hunting accident. Rove calls and tells him Cheney show someone.
Why didn't Cheney just call Bush when it happened? Doesn't the Vice President have Bush's phone #?? Why wouldn't Cheney call Bush and tell him ASAP? And why doesn't Cheney just come right out and tell the American people what happened?
The answer to that is the answer to why he didn't tell the media for almost a day.
This is an admiistration that will NEVER admit a mistake, not even shooting a 78 year old man with a red vest on in the face?
Think that wasn't wrong?? Not to hear Cheney's spokesperson tell it
"The game warden's finding seems to contradict the spin Cheney spokeswoman Mary Matalin and hunting host Katharine Armstrong put on the shooting: that Cheney had done nothing wrong and that Whittington was to blame for coming up behind Cheney without shouting out his presence as he approached.
Cheney won't even apologize puiblically, theyre that convinced his shit doesn't stink and that he did nothng wrong when he shot a 78 year old man wearing a bright orrrange vest.
Don't forget when it doesn't happen you read it here first!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:10 AM
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8. Bingo
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:40 PM
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12. Hell, why didn't Cheney tell B** about 9-11 right away??
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:49 PM
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17. Slurring his words too much? Needed some sober-up time. nt
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:42 PM
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13. This is so stupid
Just think how much better off they would have been (like I care) if this had happened.

Early Sun morning, Cheney calls a press conference, explains what happened, and says that he is so sorry for his friend, stayed by his bed all night....

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