Cascadian
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:14 AM
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Is there in-fighting between the DNC (Howard Dean) and Capitol Hill Dems? |
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It seems I hear of two points of view between the DNC under Howard Dean and those in the Capitol. Howard Dean wants to come out swinging against the Neocons while certain Democratic lawmakers want to downplay just about everything. Great example is the whole Abramoff situation. Howard Dean is insisting that no Democrats were involved in Abramoff's payoffs and some Democrats are acting like they were complicit and when you read the stories, they really weren't. For some reason, I get the impression that Howard Dean is going one way (The correct way!) and some (I said SOME, not all!) of the Democratic Senators and Congresspeople are going another direction. It makes me wonder if there is some friction between the DNC and those Democratic lawmakers that want to "go along to get along" with the Neocons?
John
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:16 AM
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1. I wouldn't be surprised |
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Reid and Schumer ordered Paul Hackett to not run for Senate, and Hackett has quit politics in disgust. I think that they only want people who will "play nice" with the neocons. I won't be surprised if they go after Dean next.
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:18 AM
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3. I think they already have. |
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They have been going after him since he took the DNC seat. It's not getting any better either. It's getting worse. I fear we might be losing the Democratic Party to those who want to make it a token opposition to the Neocons.
John
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:23 AM
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4. They went after him in the primaries. nt |
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:17 AM
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2. Friction? I call it a cold war |
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because whenever Dean starts telling the truth, the scared old men on the Hill try to cut him off at the knees, pursing their lips and tut-tutting over the intemperance of his speech.
Then they wonder why people like me can't wait to throw them out of their jobs.
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:32 AM
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5. We lost Dean when he became an insider |
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We had a real pitbull and they put a short leash and a muzzle on him.........
I would love to see him quit the chair and Run in 2008 as a "True Progresive"
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:42 AM
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7. Howard is not a progressive. |
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He's a moderate dem who says what he thinks. He was always that way. Due to his procllivity to speak his mind, people tend to believe that he's a progressive. He's not- at least by VT standards.
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:46 AM
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8. Call him what you want |
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He speaks from the heart, speaks truth to power..........
in his current position he is not allowed to fully speak his mind...............
and that is truly a shame.
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:59 AM
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You'll get no argument from me over that statement.
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Cascadian
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:08 PM
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11. He might be a centrist but he is a straight shooter. |
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This is the thing that is missing in the Democratic Party. There maybe things I may not agree with him on but he is definately a man who cannot be bought.
John
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:40 AM
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6. that's because some of them are neocons |
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:48 AM
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9. Call It "our Culture Of Corruption" |
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So Howard Dean was supposed to ride in and wave a magic wand and reform the Democratic Party in one year? Of course he's in a no-win situation here...especially with the pundits who both ridicule him and fear him.
Dean's been working in the states...helping either build up, or just plain build, parties that needed serious attention. While it's too soon to see if his work bears fruit, but a larger Democratic turn out in the many primaries and elections this fall will prove this was the way to go. This runs counter to the pundits inside the Beltway who want all the power and money in the party to pass through them. They want to control who runs for dog catcher in Helena, Montana or have the DNC fund for their new computer system rather than a simple telephone line for an office in Florida.
The pundits see the status quo changing and they're not happy with what they're seeing. While they allowed the Repugnicans to shit upon them (while they profited by playing along), now they see a real grassroots developing out there that they can't control and aren't profiting from. If they can't destroy it, they dismiss it. And they do so at their own peril.
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Tue Feb-14-06 09:33 PM
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12. Dean scares the corporate donors. |
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