Lieberman is too well liked in CT by those "in charge" ...

[rpgamerd00d]

I tried to get my town DTC (Democratic Town Committee) to issue a rather stern censure statement to Lieberman expressing anger about his position on the Iraq war and his unconditional support for Bush and his policies.

I was basically voted down.

The reasons they gave were as follows:
- Lieberman has always fully supported the town DTC in its local campaign, coming amd making appearances, speaking, financial support, etc.
- Lieberman is liked by the committee members, personal friends with the "big wigs" (i.e. old people that have been around forever)
- They don't view his position on the war as "all that big of a deal."
- And the big one: speaking out against Lieberman would affect local politics, and would make it harder within the town for the party.

Note, that my town is one of the rare CT towns that is Republican-dominant, and that other than me (37) and two other people (40s), everyone on the DTC is over 55 years old, and 90% are over 65, with several in their 80s and 90s. We are not a college town, and have no clubs or other businesses that would attract young people. Its an "antique" town (lots of antique stores). We have virtually no hope of attracting young people to the DTC. We have no pool to recruit from.

I would have to say I expect many other towns to feel the same way. They don't "know" the real deal. They are mostly centrists or even conservatives that just don't like Republicans. CT is a very weird blue state. I am convinced its only blue because most of the people don't realize that they are at least 50% Republicans deep down inside.

Anyway, if Ned Lamont is going to have a snowballs chance in hell, he will need major support from outside CT. Because I doubt he'll get it from within.

'nuff said.

[robbedvoter]

1. Money is thicker than beliefs...

[derby378]

2. This is one reason for my GET OFF YOUR ASS campaign

The more of us who get off our asses and actually assume a role in the Democratic Party itself, the more of a chance we have to remake the Democratic Party from the ground up.

Within a month, I hope to be elected precinct chair down here in Dallas. That way, I can start doing my part.

[merbex]

3. When was the last time those over 65's did a phone bank,

went door to door,or collected signatures???

A strong grassroots push can topple anyone IF you have boots on the ground

If you support Ned Lamont help him by talking to your neighbors,get your own Dem Voter list from your town clerk, create your own slate and get the deadwood off your town Committee

How much do you want change?

Because it sounds like the change is going to have to start with you

Do you want it badly enough???

[rpgamerd00d]

6. There are exactly 3 people that I would consider "liberal" on my DTC

The rest are centrists or outright conservatives.
And virtually all of them don't give a shit about anything outside of our town.
All they care about is town politics. National politics are a foreign concept to these folks.

Yes, I can "do my own thing" but I won't get much support. I have a job, a child, a woman. There is only so much I can do alone.

My point was just that there are a lot of places like this, not just in CT, but all over.

[Canuckistanian]

4. Better not make waves

You don't want to be branded a "troublemaker". Just smile politely and go along with the crowd.

[rpgamerd00d]

7. That is not my way. :)

I will have to go slowly, but I will shake their foundations and get them to start thinking on their own, eventually. It just will not be in time to unseat Lieberman, this time around.

[Canuckistanian]

8. I know, I was just trying to goad you.

Ever thought of volunteering for the Lamont campaign? Let the local DTC know that they're losing good people because of Lieberman.

[rpgamerd00d]

9. I might

We'll see.

[Hubert Flottz]

5. Just shut up and pay your taxes!

Don't call them, they'll call you. I'd go to the local newspaper and vent!

[The Stranger]

10. Fuck the Liebercon.

Keep fighting. Bring him down. Put in a Democrat to represent Connecticut.

[terip64]

11. I grew up in CT and my dad was friends w/Lieberman way back when..

People like him in CT and he gets things done for them. My mother isn't always happy with him lately but I think that she will support him. She listens to AAR and so understands. Which is great! But the majority of the people don't pay attention. I think that they will support Lieberman and maybe they should.

My dad died in June before September 11th. I would give anything to know what he would think of all of this. He was a longtime dem from West Haven and where I believe Karl Rove would have his work cut out for him, at least way back when. We are talking old time dems who would call you on anything and be itching for a fight. Those were the days.

But my father loved this country so much. He was sick when Gore didn't get in and I think he saw some of this coming. He kept saying to me that he would feel better dying with a dem in office. I do know that he wouldn't lose faith in this country as quickly as I do on a bad day. He'd say over my dead body will this nation go down. Sometimes I take comfort that he died before September 11th. He didn't have to see the mess we have become. Most of the time I just miss him and wish I knew what the hell he would say to make me feel better. He'd say something, that I know, but what?

Anyway, the point is I do think that my dad would defend Lieberman to some extent and I'm pretty sure my mom will. I think CT will stand by him because besides the war, he takes good care of them.

[madinmaryland]

12. After living in CT for over 20 years,

I have found it to be a financially conservative state dominated by Fairfield county. Socially it is quite liberal. I also found that is a very divided state with the community either very well off (Greenwich, Darien, Westport/Southport, Ridgefield, Wilton, etc.) or very poor (Bridgeport, Hartford, New London, Waterbury). What bothered me the most is the wealthy communities will not help support the infrastructure in the less off communities.

As I remember, most people seemed ambivalent towards the war (I left about 1-1/2 years ago), which is why Lieberman has gotten a free ride on that issue. He seems able to frame the issues such that the wealthy communities will back him, thus siphoning off the repub votes and still getting the democratic votes for the larger cities.