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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:40 AM
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Does anyone think that the Cheney shooting is just a diversion?
I've participated in the "Cheney shooting" discussions here, but this seems like a non-story to me. It was a hunting accident. This really is not a big deal.

I'm wondering if this administration is purposely stalling, delaying information and creating fodder for the conspiracy theorists--by being unavailable for comment and obtuse.

There are some serious issues going on right now. The NSA spying situation is growing worse for Bush, as more professionals, legal scholars and others weigh in. In addition, the Plame situation seems to be closing in on Cheney. Libby came out and said that his "superiors" told him to spread the Plame story. Obviously, that's Cheney.

Since this hunting story--I've seen little of Bush and I've heard next-to-nothing about the NSA spying story and the Plame/Cheney connection has taken a back burner in the MSM. Furthermore, Bush was in the middle of a national media tour---defending the spying. The more he spoke, the more the debate exacerbated. It appears that Rove decided that they needed to change their tactics--starting with stopping Bush's speeches on the spying issue.

Could it be that they're being intentionally mysterious and difficult--to draw controversy to a simple hunting accident---and away from other critical issues?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:41 AM
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1. There's all kind of diversions they could create that don't involve the VP
SHOOTING a guy, who could potentially not survive.

Not buying just based on common sense.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:53 AM
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6. I know...I know...
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 10:55 AM by TwoSparkles
I hear exactly what you are saying.

I'm frustrated by this situation, because it's so odd.

I don't think that Rove/Junior/Cheney sat in a room and decided that Cheney should go out and shoot someone to create a diversion.

However--it seems odd that they would purposely be so unavailable for comment, after delaying the story. Now the facts are changing.

Just a hunch--and I know this might not make sense--but it feels orchestrated, somehow.

They're purposely clouding this entire situation.

As I initially stated, Rove/Junior and Cheney didn't plan for Cheney to shoot the guy. Obviously, it was accidental. So...why the intentional lack of information and stonewalling? There is no need to stonewall. This was a hunting accident and it would have been a non-issue if they would have been open about what happened.

A hunting accident isn't controversial. However, their actions after the fact, have made it controversial. So...why?

Maybe they're creating controversy so Cheney can step down?

I don't know. This administration baffles me. Sorry for the incoherent stream of consciousness. Just thinking out loud.

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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:42 AM
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2. Um, no.
Call it a hunch, but if the administration were actually orchestrating some sort of diversion, I kinda think they would have come up with something that didn't involve the Vice President shooting someone.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:59 AM
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8. Unless the shooting was faked ...

I find it incredible that this "You can't make this up" scenario unfolds the day (or the day after) Libby implicates Cheney for authorizing a Treasonous act.

I think the entire episode was fabricated to put a fake "fake" story in the news. They purposely waited a day to let the news leak out. This now draws attention to, and suspicion about the incident (all ado about nothing, since there was no shooting).

Now, if this is the case, imagine the scope of the crime they are concealing, if they divert attention from it by using the "Cheney shot someone" story.

I think Cheney realizes that he will most likely not be the Vice President in a month or so.

Cheers
Drifter
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:06 AM
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9. That's just silly.
I don't really even see the point in trying to have a discussion here. You're post is pure baseless speculation.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:43 AM
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3. I respectfully disagree. This is bigger than people realize. He clearly
engaged in obstruction of justice by not meeting with investigators until the following day.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:45 AM
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4. Diversion from what?
There are no other stories concerning the Bush WH involved with any improprieties or any such things...
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:10 AM
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12. LOL
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:49 AM
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5. Add to the Plame case the extention of the not-so-fixed-up
Patriot act, the Republican lambasting of the administration over Katrina and the Syrian shift to the Euro from the dollar and you start to see that these guys need all the smoke-screens they can get!
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:58 AM
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7. (from today's SMW)




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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:08 AM
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10. In a word....no
When has this administration EVER been up front about anything they've done? They're reaction to this latest scandal is TYPICAL of what this administration has done since they took office.

Don't worry about the other scandals being swept aside and the focus is on Fuddgate now. There are triggers that will bring Plamegate, NSA spying and Iraqgate back into the limelight.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:09 AM
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11. It shows the care in planning Cheney takes in life or death situations.
Most hunters I know are fanatical about gun safety, Cheney's hunting skills are the actions of a Bozo ass clown. They try to sell character which in my opinion is not a number one criteria, but for those who can read between the lines there is much to be gleaned from this. I know it does not compare with trashing the Constitution, starting wars on false pretense, wrecking the U.S economy, flagrant cronyism, and being a demagogue.

Cheney belongs in another century among the landed gentry and I do not view this as a compliment.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:11 AM
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13. I'm sure someone does. After all some people still think the earth is flat
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